How are we getting through it?

Started by Leon, 19 April 2020, 09:00:34 PM

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jimduncanuk

Quote from: Leon on 20 March 2021, 10:32:35 PM
We're going to run it above ground I think, it's only 8ft or so from the house so we'll build a frame across from the back wall to site the cables in.

Hope the frame is not adjacent to the property boundary.

When I wired up my wargames hut the cable from the house had to be armoured, laid in a 2 foot deep trench lined and topped with bricks before being terminated in a fuse/switch box inside the hut. This is to stop someone putting a spade through the live cable.

If you run the cable along the property boundary you run the risk of a neighbour putting a screw through from their side and electrocuting themselves.
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Westmarcher

Yes. Must be 'armoured.' In my early DIY days, I ran a new heavy duty cable inside a wall and then fixed wood panelling on the wall with panel nails. Unfortunately, I had nailed one of these through the heavy duty cooker cable. Later, I happened to bump against the cooker. The back of the cooker made contact with the head of the nail. Bang! When I pulled the cooker out there was a small star shaped crater in the metal back plate of the cooker!  So, moral of the story, take heed of what Jim said!

p.s. In my defence, I followed the instructions in "The Techno Book of DIY."
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

FierceKitty

Quote from: Westmarcher on 21 March 2021, 10:03:45 PM

p.s. In my defence, I followed the instructions in "The Techno Book of DIY."

The Chernobyl edition?
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Does Phil know about electricity....
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Orcs

Quote from: ianrs54 on 22 March 2021, 06:48:24 AM
Does Phil know about electricity....
Yes he uses it when he want to injure himself with the Dremel  :)
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Thought he drove it with a tredal.... ;)
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Leon

Quote from: jimduncanuk on 21 March 2021, 09:50:35 PM
Hope the frame is not adjacent to the property boundary.

When I wired up my wargames hut the cable from the house had to be armoured, laid in a 2 foot deep trench lined and topped with bricks before being terminated in a fuse/switch box inside the hut. This is to stop someone putting a spade through the live cable.

If you run the cable along the property boundary you run the risk of a neighbour putting a screw through from their side and electrocuting themselves.

Sorry, to clarify when I said above ground I meant about 7ft up in the air!  We're going to build a frame/trellis type thing to carry the cabling inside a metal conduit and take it across the gap and into the top of the shed roof.  We'll have a fusebox inside there and then take the lights/plugs from that point.  There'll be an external plug socket en-route but that will be fused at the main box in the house.
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steve_holmes_11

Quote from: sultanbev on 20 March 2021, 09:50:25 PM
And this was a dead-hedge I did last summer:
allotment Apr 2020 004 by Mark Bevis, on Flickr

I spy a WRG ancients "plashed wood edge".

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Westmarcher on 21 March 2021, 10:03:45 PM
Yes. Must be 'armoured.' In my early DIY days, I ran a new heavy duty cable inside a wall and then fixed wood panelling on the wall with panel nails. Unfortunately, I had nailed one of these through the heavy duty cooker cable. Later, I happened to bump against the cooker. The back of the cooker made contact with the head of the nail. Bang! When I pulled the cooker out there was a small star shaped crater in the metal back plate of the cooker!  So, moral of the story, take heed of what Jim said!

p.s. In my defence, I followed the instructions in "The Techno Book of DIY."

Mains will do that.
I have an insulated handle screwdriver that looks as through Godzilla chewed the end off, where I had the poor coordination to bridge the terminals.

Bigger voltages can be quite spectacular.
The datacentre where I worked in the Netherlands had steel doors across its power ingress.
One had a very obviously welded repair patching a hole about the size of a football.
"Somebody had wired the board wrong", and then the power company activated their 11,000 volts.

I spent a while explaining the scenes from the Italian Job to Wouter - the "New" electrician.

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Leon on 22 March 2021, 11:23:38 AM
Sorry, to clarify when I said above ground I meant about 7ft up in the air!  We're going to build a frame/trellis type thing to carry the cabling inside a metal conduit and take it across the gap and into the top of the shed roof.  We'll have a fusebox inside there and then take the lights/plugs from that point.  There'll be an external plug socket en-route but that will be fused at the main box in the house.

Handy: Avoids problems with flooding.

Raider4

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 22 March 2021, 08:23:00 PM
Handy: Avoids problems with flooding.

And it will take an unlikely set of circumstances for someone to put a spade through it, methinks.

jimduncanuk

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 22 March 2021, 08:23:00 PM
Handy: Avoids problems with flooding.

Sounds like a hole in your roof though.
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Leon

We're in danger of needing a diagram here...!

We've got a 40x10ft concrete block, with a pergoda/covered seating area in the first 16ft and then a large shed for the remaining 24ft.  The house is about 8ft away from the pergoda.  We'll take the wiring out of the side of the house, across our framework and onto the internal of the pergoda's front beam.  It'll go along there and then into the side wall of the shed, underneath the roof line, so it'll be covered by the pergoda roof and safe from the elements. 
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Ithoriel

Pergoda? A combination of pergola and pagoda? ;)

The Teahouse of the August Moon perhaps?

Must go Googling later!
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