Quote from: KOVAV on 13 September 2011, 01:28:27 AM
... the people I game with will probably lauph at my army until they see that I can get armies much bigger than theres for a fraction of the cost, that en masse, look just as good, hopefully they will see it my way)

Send them our way, we'll help convince them!

Quote from: Raider4 on 13 September 2011, 06:06:20 PM
I've also tried the Lizardmen way - it's stuck at the mo, can't find proper figs for Kroxigors and Slann. Don't know if the 15mm range will do for Kroxigors?

Have you got a pic of the kind of look you're after?

Quote from: Leon on 13 September 2011, 08:54:57 PM
Have you got a pic of the kind of look you're after?

See message http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=385.msg6961#msg6961

I'm currently using Tribal Lizardmen as not-Saurus, and Newtmen from the same range as not-Skinks.

Cheers, Martyn
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You're after a Buddha?!   

The 15mm Lizards do look a lot like the regular ones, but with a crest on the heads.

Quote from: Leon on 13 September 2011, 09:08:11 PM
You're after a Buddha?!   

A giant frog-like figure, in a serene Buddha-like pose.

Quote from: Leon on 13 September 2011, 09:08:11 PM
The 15mm Lizards do look a lot like the regular ones, but with a crest on the heads.

Yes, but use swords & spears. I just want teeth & claws, and maybe boulders. Reptillian versions for your Trolls would be perfect.

Cheers, Martyn
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Quote from: Raider4 on 13 September 2011, 09:11:33 PM
A giant frog-like figure, in a serene Buddha-like pose.
Yes, but use swords & spears. I just want teeth & claws, and maybe boulders. Reptillian versions for your Trolls would be perfect.

Ah right, I think they're already on the list but I'll check.

Aaarrgghh - stop it - you lot are killing me...I've been wanting to do Pendraken fantasy armies, predominantly for WM gaming, but I am partial to WHFB up to & including 6th edition, for *ages*...

I've thought about using Hill Dwarves for Chaos Dwarves as a simple differential...

Oh - and Ravenloft? Six, you are accruing more & more of my respect - I want to see this. Now please. 

Hmm - I can see where this is leading...anyone want to buy some beautifully painted (if I do say so myself) Chaos & Tomb Kings in 28mm?  

QuoteAaarrgghh - stop it - you lot are killing me...I've been wanting to do Pendraken fantasy armies, predominantly for WM gaming, but I am partial to WHFB up to & including 6th edition, for *ages*...

I've thought about using Hill Dwarves for Chaos Dwarves as a simple differential...

Oh - and Ravenloft? Six, you are accruing more & more of my respect - I want to see this. Now please. 

Hmm - I can see where this is leading...anyone want to buy some beautifully painted (if I do say so myself) Chaos & Tomb Kings in 28mm?

       Party time   

thanks again all for the advice and encouregment. on more thing-how would you base them? should I just use the 20mmx20mm basing used in the normal scale game? or should I shrink it in proportion to the smaller minies? if the second option is best, how would I determine the movement and ranges of said shrunk units. I am kind of haveing a qaundry here. on one hand, if I use the normal sized bases, the units (unless I base more units to one base) will a bit loose in formation. if I use proportionally smaller bases, I would have to modify the rules.

20x20 would give the option for Warmaster...

IanS

Quotethanks again all for the advice and encouregment. on more thing-how would you base them? should I just use the 20mmx20mm basing used in the normal scale game? or should I shrink it in proportion to the smaller minies? if the second option is best, how would I determine the movement and ranges of said shrunk units. I am kind of haveing a qaundry here. on one hand, if I use the normal sized bases, the units (unless I base more units to one base) will a bit loose in formation. if I use proportionally smaller bases, I would have to modify the rules.

hmmm, it all depends if you intend to use a commercially existing set of rules with an exacting base scale written in. However, if you plan to base your figures individually I`d strongly recommend you go to the bank and get a load of 1 cent coins for foot, 2 cent coins for horses and slightly bigger things (like some dungeon creatures) and 5 cent coins for the biggest Pendraken 10mm critters out there. If you use the Euro in your country then picking them up is as simple as exchanging a few Euro for coins in the bank; if you use the pound, the bank will probably not have them in stock, but will get them for you in less than a week â€" two max (I`d pick up a pile all at once, that’s what I do. You`d be amaze how quickly your collection grows). I`d suggest 5 euro worth of 1 cent coins (500 bases there), maybe 50 2 cent coins, and perhaps 20 5 cent coins.

Why cents and not another currency? The one and two cent coins fits beautifully on the Pendraken resin dungeon tiles; and the five cent coin fits well over a few squares and feels nicely in scale. I also like these coins because they allow just enough base room to allow an aesthetically pleasing finish to each miniature, but doesn`t make the figures look out-scaled â€" like the Mage Knight ones do for example.

But this also all doubles up nicely if you ever want to use my generic mass combat rules which will be in print and available from Pendraken as soon as Leon sorts things out with the printers/publishers... he`s a busy chap, so I don`t know when this will be exactly.

Hope this helps,

Six

Incidentally, I cover basing suggestions in detail in the website. I`ll be publishing the website publically within the next few weeks.

thanks ssd. so, would the euro cent coins be rouphy analogous in size to the coins we have in america? (remeamber I am a yank, its the reason I am waiting 4 weeks to get my first batch of minies) the coins do sound like a good Idea, but I am not quite sure how well their round shape would do with the massed sqaure blocks of men in WHFB. now, I am no GW rule nazi, and I plan to use any and all rulesets with my minies that I can get my hands on, but the problem is that with sqaure bases I would be able to do both GW and others, while round, I think I would only be able to do others. PS: looking forward to see your website!

Quotethanks ssd. so, would the euro cent coins be rouphy analogous in size to the coins we have in america? (remeamber I am a yank, its the reason I am waiting 4 weeks to get my first batch of minies) the coins do sound like a good Idea, but I am not quite sure how well their round shape would do with the massed sqaure blocks of men in WHFB. now, I am no GW rule nazi, and I plan to use any and all rulesets with my minies that I can get my hands on, but the problem is that with sqaure bases I would be able to do both GW and others, while round, I think I would only be able to do others. PS: looking forward to see your website!

Oh jeee, um... I have no idea I`m afraid. I only know Euro I`m afraid. ÃŒ lived in Canada for a while, but I can`t remember the coins at all 

there must be some good equivalent ones there. When you see them in the site you`ll get a better idea of the sizes I use and can work it out yourself from there. I like the coins too because they add a bit of weight to the minis, and definitely helps them stand up better on difficult or tilted (hills) terrain. However, like all things, it’s down to personal choice at the end of the day.

Hmmmm, round over square bases    With Warhammer (much more so in the early days) it was always a choice between round and square. Square tended often to be Warhammer, while Warhammer 40K used rounds. But there was much personal choice involved at the time, and you`d often see both being used for either game.

Personally I like rounds, but that’s just personal choice...  even when 10mm playing mass combat (individually based) games. I always liked the way the round bases looked on GW`s LOTR table top battle game; my DWC Mass Combat rules work well for me using roundels too, but again, it’s just down to personal preference really.

However, if you used 20mm bases for your games, you`d never fit the bases onto the Pendraken resin Dungeon Tiles should you ever wish to go that route â€" which I`d strongly advise you do try at some stage. There`s somethin gabout a dungeon crawl in 10mm which just inspires love at first sight.

Six 

....... a lot of people seem to prefer using little metal or rubber washers for bases. You know, the kind youd find in most hardware store. But you`d have to make sure when you found the right ones that the store can get more in. Either that or buy all you think you`ll ever need in one go.

Basing. If you go single figure then you need metal bases to give some stability. I used 12mm washers for my single based figures.

If you are wanting to play war hammer in 10mm then I would like at multi-figure basing, I would do some 20x20mm bases with 3 or 4 figures per base, I would also do a few larger bases to make movement easier, larger bases also give the chance to do mini dioramas.