hey, I just thought I would ask for advice here about subtituting 10mm (15mm if I absolutely must) for GW Warhammer fantasy factions here is what I am already thinking.

Orks and Goblins: goblins easy to find. Orks, not so much

The Empire: obviously historical line renicance will do well for most of them. easy, ecept for steam tanks

Skaven: Pedraken ratmen. pendraken stuff is nigh perfect for them.

Ogre Kingdoms:...........ogres, obviously. not sure how well they will diversify

Bretonia: western medieval historicals. easy to find

Kieslev: medieval Russians. not to hard to find.

Araby: arabs armies of pendraken. easy to find

Lizardmen: Range named after them.

High elves: high elves

Wood elves: wood elves.

dark elvs: dark elves.

Dwarves: pendraken dwarfs will do well.

Dwarfs of chaos: eureka chaos dwarfs, or differantly painted Pendrakens

Cathay: Chinese historicals, pendraken or otherwise.

Nippon: Samurai

Vampire counts: Undead.

Chaos: This is the one I am really having trouble with. the Fantasy bazrbarians can easily be the marauders, but for chaos knights and other elites I am not sure.

So what do you all think?

Hmmm, actually, I`ve been thinking about your question for a while. Yes it’s totally do-able in 10mm. As I looked through the list and sat matching all the Pendraken ranges (don`t ask me to quote the order numbers as I can`t remember them all) with your `needs` list, I began to realise it would be quite possible to use facsimiles of all the pieces you would need to play in a Warhammer World â€"especially Empire,  Araby,  Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, Orcs, Skaven, or Lizardsmen. Whether you played skirmish level or full battles, as far as I can see, the Pendraken 10mm range covers everything you’d need... and I didn’t  even dig deeply by any shot, so the range of availabilities is even more than I looked at.

Sounds like a great idea, and what a cool project.  Happy hunting, happy painting and happy gaming.


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As Steve says, we've got most of that covered, it's only the Chaos bunch that would be a problem.  There's a request for them up on the Fantasy Requests board if you'd like to add your vote?

I was looking through the Pendraken Medieval range; you know... there’s a lot there could (at a small pinch) be painted and (gasp) converted easily enough to Chaos - add a few armoured Centaurs, Ogres, Trolls, Amazons (painted as Demon-ettes), Witch Elves, and you`d have yourself a decent Chaos army, even as the range stands now.

Everything will work apart form the chaos -

QuoteEverything will work apart form the chaos -

Yeah, I can see how Chaos could pose a bit of a problem if you wanted to include some of the daemon type creatures included in the rules book. I keep forgetting, they`ve added a whole load of things since the early days. But I`m still not totally convinced it can`t be overcome with a bit of imaginative thinking, a decent, modelling knife, and a willingness to adapt a wee bit. I could be wrong, and I bow to greater knowledge here. But I can see how it might be possible to include Chaos into the mix.

thanks for alerting me of the request, I voted. as for chaos, with so many other factions to buy paint and play with, I will probably be able to occupy my self with the easier to find factions for a while. if, after I have done those factions, and time/money (though my finances would have to take blow worthy of Archeon the everchosen to not be able to afford pendraken) permits, and the omens are correct, adn still there is no range that is analogous to chaos I shall take sixsideddice's advice and simply use my imagination, skill, and paint to create a force of chaos (said skill shall probably be far greater at said time then now, I will, after all, have the experience of creating the other armies of the warhammer world with 10mm) keep watching in the comeing weeks and months, you shall have the immense entertainment of watching me post pictures of my floundering through my quest of making said armies. first, because I think it will the most merciful on my newbishness, the empire.

Well...
You could buy several thousand points of Pendraken for the cost of one GW hero!
I mean, 70+ haflings for £11 - GET IN!

that was one of the main selling points of doing what I am doing. GW will steal your money even faster than the goverment!

Quotethanks for alerting me of the request, I voted. as for chaos, with so many other factions to buy paint and play with, I will probably be able to occupy my self with the easier to find factions for a while. if, after I have done those factions, and time/money (though my finances would have to take blow worthy of Archeon the everchosen to not be able to afford pendraken) permits, and the omens are correct, adn still there is no range that is analogous to chaos I shall take sixsideddice's advice and simply use my imagination, skill, and paint to create a force of chaos (said skill shall probably be far greater at said time then now, I will, after all, have the experience of creating the other armies of the warhammer world with 10mm) keep watching in the comeing weeks and months, you shall have the immense entertainment of watching me post pictures of my floundering through my quest of making said armies. first, because I think it will the most merciful on my newbishness, the empire.

You`ve really got me motivated here KOVAV, not to do Warhammer in 10mm as you intend, but rather to take on its counterpart "Ravenloft" - to create a vile, monstrous and unholy army of death and despair, led by the totally evil enigma Count Strahd von Zarovich of Barovia. Its about time I concentrated on my Undead legions a bit more. Hmmmm, this is inspiring.

I greatly look forward to seeing your creations come to life KOVAV. I`m sure you have a lot of amazing surprises up your sleeve for us over the coming months. Great stuff, and happy happy hunting my friend.


Leon, do you make a 10mm carriage in any of your miniature ranges... my Vampire Count will need a suitable mode of transport  

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I'll look forward to seeing how you get on Kovav, keep us updated!

Quote from: sixsideddice on 12 September 2011, 10:12:50 PM
Leon, do you make a 10mm carriage in any of your miniature ranges... my Vampire Count will need a suitable mode of transport  

Yep, SYW10 in the SYW Miscellaneous section. 

QuoteYep, SYW10 in the SYW Miscellaneous section.

Placing a new order now 

wooohooooo!!!!   and we`re off 

thanks for all the help guys! and SSD the castle ravenloft thing is a wonderful idea! I may undertake it after I am done with WFB proper, and with the added benefit of learning from your mistakes. I have decided to start my army by replicating this starter set: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440089a&prodId=prod2030000
same thing, cept it will cost my 24 dollars plus shipping, as opposed to 115 plus shipping, AND I will end up with 102 figures as opposed to 48. I plan to use  EC:1 for the empire state troops, ELM 11 for the handgunners, LAN 3 for the greatswordsmen, and EC11 for the knights.

Sounds excellent Kovav, I can`t wait to see how you get on with this little lot. Empire are always fun to collect, and in 10mm will look totally awesome. When you add the Pendraken terrain (cottages, trees... omg the trees are nice; road sections, crates, barrels, etc) you have the most amazing set up imaginable. I liken 10mm wargames to looking at an N Gauge model railway over the normal OO scale.

I really like to keep my games small (dining table size at the most) as opposed to using a 6` by 4` board. I know many like to do it that way, simply making units bigger and expanding the number of miniatures on the bases used, and to play games on the same size table as they normally would in 28mm; but to me this defeats the whole point of playing in this diminutive scale a bit, just my opinion mind.

I literally just placed my own order for my "Ravenloft" theme.... Count`s carriage included *wink* so this little lot will bulk up my existing undead collection and make quite a decent little army for Strahd to lead 

Now, where did I put my unfinished zombies - they`ll be a good place to start painting while I wait for the post to arrive.



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my table is huge, I inherited it from my parents, heads of a large fammily, so as for gameing table, as long as I play at home, I dont have to worry about size. BUT such a table is not always avaible, so the apeal of 10mm is bolstered by the lesser need of space (the main calling for me was the far better deal in cost while sacrificing suprisingly little visual apeal. I mean, the people I game with will probably lauph at my army until they see that I can get armies much bigger than theres for a fraction of the cost, that en masse, look just as good, hopefully they will see it my way)