French Guard infantry released!

Started by Leon, 07 January 2021, 11:17:27 AM

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Leon

It's our first release of 2021 and also a long-awaited one as the Guard have arrived!  We'd had these sculpted a few years back but they were lost in the void known as 'Sculpting Drawer'...  But they're here now and ready for deployment against those pesky Brits!

Two quick notes on these, obviously the Guard were present through until 1815 but we've put them in our 1809 French range for the timebeing, with their earlier descriptions.  When we add an 1815 French range in the future they can be moved over to there.  Also, the Young and Middle Guard wouldn't have been issued with Eagles and would have bare poles with fanions instead.  As we don't currently produce those we've left the eagles on for the timebeing and folks can simply snip them off if they're going to make their own flags.

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NPF49   Young Guard Tirailleur Chasseurs/Voltigeurs (30)   £5.50
NPF50   Young Guard Tirailleur Grenadiers/Tirailleurs (30)   £5.50
NPF51   Middle Guard Fusilier Chasseurs (30)   £5.50
NPF52   Middle Guard Fusilier Grenadiers (30)   £5.50
NPF53   Young/Middle Guard mounted officers (5)   £1.85
NPF54   Old Guard Chasseurs (30)   £5.50
NPF55   Old Guard Grenadiers (30)   £5.50
NPF56   Old Guard mounted officers (5)   £1.85


And some pics!

NPF49 - Young Guard Tirailleur Chasseurs/Voltigeurs


NPF52 - Middle Guard Fusilier Grenadiers


NPF53 - Young/Middle Guard mounted officers


NPF54 - Old Guard Chasseurs


NPF56 - Old Guard mounted officers
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Aha! Maybe this is the year of Napoleonics!
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Very nice, I will have to "Guard" against temptation.
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Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 January 2021, 02:18:30 PM
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Smithy

Oh yes. Lovely guardsmen. Best pull my finger out and get those line infantry finished and get me some of these!!!!

whubble

Thank you for more New Year's cheer. Just a wee question ... what is the difference between NPF 56 Old Guard Mtd. officer and NPF 24 Mtd. Guard Grenadier officer. I assume the new addition is a Foot Chasseur?? Many thanks for these figures.  :D

Leon

Quote from: whubble on 08 January 2021, 12:22:59 AM
Thank you for more New Year's cheer. Just a wee question ... what is the difference between NPF 56 Old Guard Mtd. officer and NPF 24 Mtd. Guard Grenadier officer. I assume the new addition is a Foot Chasseur?? Many thanks for these figures.  :D

I think so, the original mounted officer seems to have the plate, the new one doesn't so should be a Guard Chasseur officer.
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sean66

Quote from: Leon on 07 January 2021, 11:17:27 AM
It's our first release of 2021 and also a long-awaited one as the Guard have arrived!  We'd had these sculpted a few years back but they were lost in the void known as 'Sculpting Drawer.....
that must be a mighty big Drawer  :o ;D
Regards
Sean

Leon

Quote from: sean66 on 08 January 2021, 09:21:52 AM
that must be a mighty big Drawer  :o ;D
Regards
Sean

It has been at times!  There's not a great deal in there at the moment, we've been able to finally get a lot of it moulded and released during Covid.  There's only some Fantasy stuff pending at the moment.
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John Cook

I haven't seen them sloe up but I suspect some of the Young Guard might work as proxies for many of the Confederation of the Rhine types.

WeeWars

The shakos of both the Young Guard Tirailleur Chasseurs/Voltigeurs and the Young Guard Tirailleur Grenadiers/Tirailleurs have lozenge plates like ordinary line infantry and the line infantry figures they are based on. The Young Guard never had these. The Young Guard had eagle plates on their shakos (as detailed in the notes I sent Leon). I won't be using these figures as they are without attempting something with the green stuff. Where's the joy in fielding a glorious Guard sporting pedestrian insignia? Of course, I would be willing to share my almost certainly meagre sculpting results with the community.

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Leon

09 January 2021, 09:32:51 PM #17 Last Edit: 09 January 2021, 09:42:46 PM by Leon
Quote from: WeeWars on 09 January 2021, 01:57:45 PM
The shakos of both the Young Guard Tirailleur Chasseurs/Voltigeurs and the Young Guard Tirailleur Grenadiers/Tirailleurs have lozenge plates like ordinary line infantry and the line infantry figures they are based on. The Young Guard never had these. The Young Guard had eagle plates on their shakos (as detailed in the notes I sent Leon). I won't be using these figures as they are without attempting something with the green stuff. Where's the joy in fielding a glorious Guard sporting pedestrian insignia? Of course, I would be willing to share my almost certainly meagre sculpting results with the community.



The sculptor had the reference material and we'd also checked the sculpts with two Naps guys before releasing them, which actually led to some tweaks being done by Techno.  Sadly your email was on our old address and helpfully Dave managed to delete every email going back to 2008 from there...  If memory serves, didn't some of the Guard have the lozenge until Napoleon returned, at which point they took them off and manually beat them into the shape of an eagle, before re-attaching to the shako?
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WeeWars

I can dig out the reference I sent previously, meanwhile from looking at the images you've put up on the site I'd make these immediate observations.

Fusilier Grenadiers
They have pointed cuffs where they should have the same cuffs as the Grenadiers a Pied with three-pointed flaps. In fact, pack NPF55 with shakos would have been perfect - hopefully these have cuffs with three-pointed not straight flaps.
They shouldn't have common lozenge plates, they should have eagle plates.
From the 500 pixel wide image they look like they have fringed epaulettes, they should have fringed epaulettes.

Fusilier Chasseurs
From the 500 pixel wide image it doesn't look like they have fringed epaulettes, they should have fringed epaulettes.
They shouldn't have common lozenge plates, they should have eagle plates.
For 1809 where the pack is listed, the plumes are in the wrong place. The shako plumes should be on the left (of the man). It would be better to have shako cords with the plume.
The Chasseurs officer should have flat topped boots.
Pointed cuffs are correct.

The Fusiliers carried no 'Eagles'.

For sculpting purposes, the rank-and-file of the two Tirailleur regiments share the same uniform.

Tirailleur Grenadiers
Pointed cuffs are correct.
They shouldn't have common lozenge plates, they should have eagle plates.
Very good to see shako cords.
They should have gaiters to the knee with straight tops. It looks like they have.
Good to see an officer without surcoat and with one fringed epaulette. However, his cuffs are wrong. At this rank he should have the same cuffs as grenadiers.
No fringed epaulettes is correct.

Tirailleur Chasseurs
They shouldn't have common lozenge plates, they should have eagle plates.
Pointed cuffs are correct.
No fringed epaulettes is correct.
They should have gaiters to the knee with straight tops and not the light infantry one.
They have plumes so why not have shako cords to match?
However, you can substitute the rank-and-file of the Tirailleur Grenadiers for these.

All the shakos for this Guard division have side chevrons. Any help for the paint job would be appreciated. If the shakos have plumes there's no reason why they shouldn't have shako cords as well. It would be helpful for painting if there were an indication of an eagle on the cartridge pouches.
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Leon

All cuffs, epaulettes, gaiters, etc were checked before release and were confirmed as correct.  Fringed epaulettes are present and all cuffs are pointed except for the Fusilier Grenadiers which are straight.  We've already acknowledged that the eagles wouldn't be carried but we left them in as we don't produce fanions.  On the eagle plates, as I said already, I was under the impression that the lozenge was there initially and then it was removed, beaten to an eagle shape and reattached, when Napoleon returned.

I didn't check whether officer boots were flat-topped or not and I'd need to look at whether they've all got the correct shako cords.

I don't know why the picture being 500 pixels is worth noting.
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