Brexit Update

Started by Leon, 28 December 2020, 10:10:56 PM

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John Cook

I'm not worried in the slightest.  Which has about the easiest to digest and sensible explanation of what the Brexit Agreement means for the consumer.  See https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/12/brexit-deal-what-it-means-for-food-prices-consumer-rights-and-more/

Essentially prices of food and goods will not increase because no tariffs are being applied to goods or food traded between the UK and the EU, unless there are fluctuations in exchange rate/supply/demand, which has always been the case.   

I predict that in twelve months time it will be as if nothing had changed. 



Orcs

Quote from: John Cook on 31 December 2020, 02:23:08 PM
I'm not worried in the slightest.  Which has about the easiest to digest and sensible explanation of what the Brexit Agreement means for the consumer.  See https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/12/brexit-deal-what-it-means-for-food-prices-consumer-rights-and-more/

Essentially prices of food and goods will not increase because no tariffs are being applied to goods or food traded between the UK and the EU, unless there are fluctuations in exchange rate/supply/demand, which has always been the case.   

I predict that in twelve months time it will be as if nothing had changed. 




Yep I totally agree John
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sean66

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 29 December 2020, 09:58:54 PM
It would be interesting to know how much money British wargame companies make out of selling to the EU

I think a few of the company's will have roughly the same turn over as Leon mentions.
I know that GW has 2 shops in Nuremberg selling their stuff (1 is a GW)
So it'll be interesting to see how they manage. I find the German Wargaming scene
Was mostly Sci Fi or earlier wargaming. They seemed to shy away from WW1
And 2.
Tactica in Hamburg only really had 2 U.K. vendors the last few times I've gone
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John Cook

They will manage fine, I'm sure.  Imports from UK will not attract tariffs and Mehrwertsteuer (German VAT) will be applied in accordance with EU rules, as it always has.

Last Hussar

Every expert says it's not that simple.

We have chosen not to charge tariffs (which has it's own knock on), but the paperwork now has to be done. It's not just about the price of lettuce.
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John Cook

Every 'expert' has been predicting doom and gloom for the past four years and the media has been uniformly negative.  They have all been wrong so far. The UK exports more to the rest of the world than it does to the EU and the 'paperwork' does not seem to be an impediment to that.  I just don't see it as an issue.  On balance I would have preferred we remained in the EU but it is what it is. 

flamingpig0

Quote from: John Cook on 01 January 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Every 'expert' has been predicting doom and gloom for the past four years and the media has been uniformly negative. 

You haven't noticed the Murdoch and Barclay brothers press????
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Ben Waterhouse

Quote from: John Cook on 01 January 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Every 'expert' has been predicting doom and gloom for the past four years and the media has been uniformly negative.  They have all been wrong so far. The UK exports more to the rest of the world than it does to the EU and the 'paperwork' does not seem to be an impediment to that.  I just don't see it as an issue.  On balance I would have preferred we remained in the EU but it is what it is. 
Hear him!

paulr

I'm a little surprised Techno hasn't issued one of his 'politics' warnings, all have been very civil so far...
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02 January 2021, 02:08:08 AM #29 Last Edit: 02 January 2021, 02:14:22 AM by John Cook
Quote from: paulr on 02 January 2021, 01:48:55 AM
I'm a little surprised Techno hasn't issued one of his 'politics' warnings, all have been very civil so far...

Yes it has been very civil so I suppose that is why.  The thing is it isn't really political per se, it's a bit more parochial than that and related to fears about the wargames business.  But, I'm done on the subject except to say that I'm sure it is going to be fine in the end, people will get used to the new rules and regulations and I look forward to a trade deal with the US so I can buy stuff tariff-free from Good Ground and Tin Soldier.

Techno II

Quote from: paulr on 02 January 2021, 01:48:55 AM
I'm a little surprised Techno hasn't issued one of his 'politics' warnings, all have been very civil so far...

I have been keeping an eye on this.. ;)

Cheers - Phil :)

Leon

Quote from: John Cook on 02 January 2021, 02:08:08 AM
...I look forward to a trade deal with the US so I can buy stuff tariff-free from Good Ground and Tin Soldier.

I'd be on board with that but it would need some substantial changes from the previous TTIP agreement we were looking at in 2016.
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flamingpig0

Quote from: Leon on 02 January 2021, 04:00:54 PM
I'd be on board with that but it would need some substantial changes from the previous TTIP agreement we were looking at in 2016.


Whatever the benefit for aged wargamers such as myself I am sure that overall any trade deal would be massively to the  advantage of the US and in particular their more rapacious corporations.
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"We don't want your stupid tanks!" 
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Raider4

Quote from: John Cook on 31 December 2020, 02:23:08 PM
I predict that in twelve months time it will be as if nothing had changed. 

I agree, everything will mostly carry on as before, after the initial teething troubles are worked out/around.

There will be unintended consequences though.

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steve_holmes_11

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 02 January 2021, 06:37:49 PM

Whatever the benefit for aged wargamers such as myself I am sure that overall any trade deal would be massively to the  advantage of the US and in particular their more rapacious corporations.

I'm no longer so confident about that hormone-treated beef.


flamingpig0

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 12 January 2021, 06:27:14 PM
I'm no longer so confident about that hormone-treated beef.



The really frightening thing is that the guy only ate chicken
"I like coffee exceedingly..."
 H.P. Lovecraft

"We don't want your stupid tanks!" 
Salah Askar,

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Techno II

It's all very well Jay Kay saying that's not a picture of him...But I'm not convinced ! :D

(Don't think I've ever heard anything by Jamiroquai.......I probably wouldn't like it, anyway. ;))

Cheers - Phil :)

sean66

First order got across the 'Brexit Border' into Bavaria
and no handling fees or tax  ;)
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