Cold War Infantry?

Started by Mako, 27 September 2020, 09:14:06 AM

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fsn

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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Ben Waterhouse


Sunray

Quote from: Ben Waterhouse on 03 October 2020, 08:09:50 AM
Me too!



Yeah! I get that. There is a Cold War in minature replay longing amongst BAOR vets. It is because it was the ONE we trained for? All those 1:1 scale wargames on the Notrh German Plain. The absence of death and caranage- so its fond memories of soldering devoid of PTSD - and the desire to see - on tabletop - how long our superior kit and professionalism would hold against the WP hords.

The Timecast Cold War buildings range provide 1st class well researched senics -  Barrie even did a keller crawl around Paderborn to get it right.

If its the 1980s we need a few Smokey Joes - with their 2 stroke Laylands betraying our harbours.    :)

Typing this reminded me of how the MBT rules changed with thermal imaging - the Battle of 73 easting etc -   

pierre the shy

Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?


   
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Sunray

Quote from: pierre the shy on 03 October 2020, 09:30:23 AM
Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?
 

Good questions! The 10mm limits the size of game to a glorified skermish. The initial "contact" for Red forces heading West.  With NATO deployed in a defence in depth, 0R - an advance to contact .

My own personal preference is an attack by Soviet Airborne.  They seize a bridge (a 1/300 reduntant Arnhem has been used in this very role) -or a key cross roads "Bastogne type" town. 

The Soviet ASU 57 and ASU 85 are in the Pendraken pipeline.  And NATO forces have to shift them before the main WP breaks through.   It also allows play for NATO reserve types.

John Cook

"There is a Cold War in minature replay longing amongst BAOR vets."  Not by this one! 

pierre the shy

Quote from: Sunray on 03 October 2020, 09:58:07 AM
Good questions! The 10mm limits the size of game to a glorified skermish. The initial "contact" for Red forces heading West.  With NATO deployed in a defence in depth, 0R - an advance to contact .

My own personal preference is an attack by Soviet Airborne.  They seize a bridge (a 1/300 reduntant Arnhem has been used in this very role) -or a key cross roads "Bastogne type" town. 

The Soviet ASU 57 and ASU 85 are in the Pendraken pipeline.  And NATO forces have to shift them before the main WP breaks through.   It also allows play for NATO reserve types.

As you're ex-BAOR Sunray you may have seen this 1983 training film about a British bridge demolition guard.....like so many other things someone posted it to youtube:



It would be a very manageble scenario to game....just watch out for those sneaky Spetznaz frogmen and suspiscous "refugees" driving red cars trying to tamper with your explosives.   
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fsn

Quote from: pierre the shy on 03 October 2020, 09:30:23 AM
Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?
   
For something in this period, it would be platoon to company size (1:1).  As for rules - well I haven't written them yet.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Quote from: fsn on 04 October 2020, 08:11:27 AM
  As for rules - well I haven't written them yet.

But I have several times ! :P
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Sunray

Quote from: pierre the shy on 04 October 2020, 02:53:17 AM
As you're ex-BAOR Sunray you may have seen this 1983 training film about a British bridge demolition guard.....like so many other things someone posted it to youtube:

It would be a very manageble scenario to game....just watch out for those sneaky Spetznaz frogmen and suspiscous "refugees" driving red cars trying to tamper with your explosives.   

WoW !!!  I believe I first watched this "movie" at Sennelager back in the last century.  Thank you very much for posting!  As you say its a very manageable game- good demo game with the movie on a wide screen?

Now the table quiz.  Brigadier and Monkeys apart - a few 1980s badges were on view. For younger members, I have added the contempoary nicknames and clues

1.  Known as the "Lost 6th" after amalgamation - town of origion/association English spelling is with an "E" and not an "I"

2.    Doreen's Ever Ready Rifles - where a battery is not 4 guns, and "charging" is not advancing.

3.  The Greek Guards ?  Or - those poor buggers tasked with guarding  the Greek?

Have fun.  :)

pierre the shy

Glad to be of service.....there's 50+ more on this youtube playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1201241573903DAF

Cheers
"Welcome back to the fight...this time I know our side will win"

pbeccas

I am really interested in East Germany, so I'll stick my hand up for some East German infantry.  The Soviet range of vehicles will cover the East German support.