Quote from: Dour Puritan on 25 August 2011, 06:42:06 PM
Similarly Hail Caesar rules do the same thing for Ancients. Ostensibly written for 28mm figures these rules work with 10mm by having a shorter frontage and using cm instead of inches. They have also been written for tailoring to sub-periods so that, for example, ACW games will feel different from FPW games. However, they do seem to be written for divisional rather than corps sized battles.
DP

I agree: However, I just use Divisional commanders as everyone else uses brigadiers, divisional command gets replaced by Corps, based on a regimental scale for infantry and brigades of cavalry (unless skirmishing). This means multi corps games work well.

Black Powder gave a good game with 2 base btns on 60x30 bases (figures Irregular 6's), so should do as well with 10mm. I did make up skimish markers - 20x30, and guns are on 303x30.

No Nic - no picies. 

IanS

Quote from: Hertsblue on 23 August 2011, 07:28:04 PM
At the risk of being dogmatic - there are no "best" rulesets. My advice - try a few and pick the ones you like. There are plenty knocking about on the web. 

Agreed, but the OP isn't about 'best', but 'recommended'.

Perhaps it might have helped if we'd all explained why we recommended what we did.

From my list, i also consider Fire & Fury to be the 'best' ACW ruleset out there (for brigade-level actions of course).



I see Flames of War's popped its ugly head up here too.

*Brooding silence*

What can i say in the context of this thread?  They are neither 'recommended' nor 'the best'.  In fact, if you've got a moment' they are an object lesson in how to not write a set of rules.  They are a warning of how badly wrong, games design can go.  It astonishes me that anyone ever plays these rules more than once.

No Ludd, stop yourself now.  You know you can feel a rant coming on.  Just walk away old chap...

Gotta agree on the FoW rules, simply put, 40K in WW2 clothes, and anyone apart from a GW fanboy has to agree that 40K is THE most broken set of rules ever rehashed and reserved (repeatedly to the adoring fanboyz) ever.

And Ludd, for my money, Civil War Battles by Peter Pig gets my money for best ACW ruleset, Corps level rather than Division, but you could just say that each brigade is a regiment and hey-presto, its a Divisional set.

Greetings

Recommending rules can sometimes be an exercise in futility because it depends what the potential user wants from a game.   I've got a wide range of rulesets for different periods and levels of command.

So for example WW2:
- Brigade level action i.e.. 2-4 battalions per side with one stand = 1 platoon: I predominantly use Blitzkrieg Commander II because it gives a good game in reasonable time and can be easily picked up.  However I've also got Command Decision (various editions) and would use that for more 'detailed' games when I get time (I've also got Spearhead and Kampfgruppe Commander but I'm not wild about these);
- Battalion level acton i.e. 2-4 companies per side with one stand = 1 section: Battlefront WW2 (one can also use BKC for this) though I tend to use a larger ground scale;
- Company level action i.e. 2-4 platoons per side with one figure = 1 man: I Ain't Been Shot Mum (I've also used Arc of Fire) which is card based activation with a lot of friction - not something everyone can get along with;
- Platoon level action i.e. 2-4 sections per side with one figure = 1 man: Tactics Weapons and Troops - another card activated set by Too Fat Lardies.

Note that not all of these use 10mm though I have for Brigade, Battalion and Company level (the latter tends to be 15mm as that is what most other people use who I play with; also some Battalion level I use 15mm).

Regards

Edward

Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 August 2011, 09:04:24 AM
No Nic - no picies.  

IanS

Why not? Don't think I've ever seen any pics from you...

Quote from: Luddite on 26 August 2011, 09:41:03 AM

No Ludd, stop yourself now.  You know you can feel a rant coming on.  Just walk away old chap...

Nice recovery 

Quote from: nikharwood on 27 August 2011, 11:23:06 AM
Why not? Don't think I've ever seen any pics from you...

Cant use a cammera, and did send you the ones oof that FWC game.

IanS

Quote from: ianrs54 on 27 August 2011, 11:38:33 AM
Cant use a cammera, and did send you the ones oof that FWC game.

IanS

Ah yes - I forgot that...which means you can use a camera 

No - my camera - someone else photoing !!

Thank you everybody, I now have somewhere to make a start from.

In hindsight I should have said Favorite instead of best lol

Thanks
Steven

Quote from: Luddite on 26 August 2011, 09:41:03 AMI see Flames of War's popped its ugly head up here too.

*Brooding silence*

What can i say in the context of this thread?  They are neither 'recommended' nor 'the best'.  In fact, if you've got a moment' they are an object lesson in how to not write a set of rules.  They are a warning of how badly wrong, games design can go.  It astonishes me that anyone ever plays these rules more than once.

No Ludd, stop yourself now.  You know you can feel a rant coming on.  Just walk away old chap...

So, um, tell us Luddite, what exactly is wrong with the old FoW rules? 

Take your time, mate, we're all ears. 

AII

Bear little relation to WWII, starting to get the massive number of supplements syndrome, own stuff rather expensive.....

In favor

It's a good game, and the offical toys look nice.

IanS