Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

Quote from: rangerdad on 04 June 2020, 04:06:35 PM

Does anyone have any links for good info on Japanese clans/warlords/armies please ?

https://www.samurai-archives.com has good info, as does http://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/?m=1.

Quote from: fred. on 04 June 2020, 09:18:27 PM
Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

They tended to be worn by everyone, especially by the Sengoku Jidai (16th century civil war period). Larger ones tended to mark commanders, but even the commoners wore small ones and the tall varieties (often requiring a couple of men to maneuver) tended to be used as signal devices to tell a unit where to go.

The bamboo rolls served a similar roll to sandbags, creating barricades and something to absorb all the lead flying at you. At one point the Japanese were producing more guns than anywhere else in the world by some accounts so defensive emplacements were common. Combined with the palisades this would produce some deadly kill zones, as the Takeda cavalry found out at the Battle of Nagashino.

Quote from: fred. on 04 June 2020, 09:18:27 PM
Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

Sashimono would be worn by both Samurai and Ashigaru. Not necessarily all of a unit would be wearing them as they are pretty big and could get in the way. Not sure if I've seen an estimate of actual numbers worn and I'll have to dig up my books to see if any of them give a clue.

Large or small would depend on the actual clan and its heraldry, so if you are using historical ones you would need a bit of research.

Thanks both. Very helpful.

Any suggestions on a good intro book?

They weren't only flags, either.

Extremely handy to supply Irregular Wars eastern lists:
* Japanese (obvs)
* Figures for Eastern Pirate raiding fleets.

Quote from: fred. on 04 June 2020, 09:18:27 PM
Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

As mmcv says, they were used as improvised defences in a variety of ways.  Our sculptor had made a single one for us to duplicate for the Kuruma Date shield, so we thought we might as well pop it in the range as well.  I've attached a picture our sculptor sent us of a selection of defences (ignore his writing on it!)

This is a useful resource for sashimono and other banners. Sadly marred by Photobucket's stupid overlays, but still useable because if you follow the link to Photobucket itself you can see the image without it.

http://www.samurai-archives.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1638

For example, my favourite clan (the "Red Devils") the Ii.

Thanks Leon, great picture

And Ithoriel what a great if somewhat overwhelming resource.

Fred, it is searchable, I used it for my Uesugi

Quote from: Leon on 04 June 2020, 10:29:58 PM
As mmcv says, they were used as improvised defences in a variety of ways.  Our sculptor had made a single one for us to duplicate for the Kuruma Date shield, so we thought we might as well pop it in the range as well.  I've attached a picture our sculptor sent us of a selection of defences (ignore his writing on it!)

The stacked bails of bamboo in bottom right hand corner also look interesting.
As does that mobile siege platform ... but I'd like a Portable Shrine before either please  pretty please 

I also like the Horo -tsukaiban standard from the resources sheet - very interesting.

Cheers
Mark

Little Wars TV has a very nice Battle of Kawanakajima Scenario: http://www.littlewarstv.com/members-only/category/e108-kawanakajima

Leon, a very small niggle in the face of such a great new range but I believe FEU33 should be "Uma Jirushi banners (5)" not "Uma Jinushi banners (5)" as listed currently.

#Seppuku is the only way out from this 

Quote from: Big Insect on 05 June 2020, 10:12:40 AM
... but I'd like a Portable Shrine before either please  pretty please 

Is that the big gold box carried by about 16 blokes?!  I'll see what we can do...

Quote from: Ithoriel on 05 June 2020, 12:25:47 PM
Leon, a very small niggle in the face of such a great new range but I believe FEU33 should be "Uma Jirushi banners (5)" not "Uma Jinushi banners (5)" as listed currently.

Good spot, I've updated that.

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10187.0.html

Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 June 2020, 04:47:50 PM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10187.0.html

Yeah, that's what I'd seen elsewhere.  It's not a difficult piece to do, a bit fiddly but we can talk to one of our designers about it.

A portable shrine would be cool

Some mounted ikko ikki / monks would be cool too...

Simply superb range of figs, and surely should prove popular for an authentic mass effect of the later Samurai period. Plus one for a portable shrine, and can we have a pack of Nobori banner bearers, these were the tall household banners of the elite Daimyo. Please see third figure from left below:
https://twitter.com/KingsfordMinis/status/1043626807604346880/photo/1

Outstanding resource of Samurai Heraldry
http://www.johnstuart.biz/historical_artwork_of_samurai_ba.htm