Hijacking, but a Conquistador battle today to teach Lee some humility. 

Oh my, you mean you actually won?!

Nice to see those rare 10mm Incas!

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 27 April 2020, 06:30:07 AM
I can't compete with the fine examples above, so I'll advocate a simple principle.
The smaller the scale, the less you want to re-base.

By the time you reach 10mm, I'd avoid rebasing entirely.
Some fore-thought can help with this.

a) Select rules which are basing agnostic, or at least ones that use popular basing sizes.

b) If that's not possible consider what can be achieved using movement trays.

I am facing this issue in terms of what size to make the grid I am planning on having.

My understanding is that the normal standards are:
Ancients & Renaissance - 40mm frontage
Horse & Musket - 30mm frontage
ACW - done In inches
Modern - 25mm

This could all be rubbish / designed for 6mm / 15mm usage as I would think 25mm / 28mm might struggle with these but it would be interesting to know others take on this.

Quote from: mmcv on 27 May 2020, 12:08:04 PM
Oh my, you mean you actually won?!

'Course he didn't ! 

Cheers - Phil

Oh yes he did!

Solo game then ?

Quote from: FierceKitty on 27 May 2020, 02:26:18 PM
Oh yes he did!

WHAT !!!!

just looking back at this thread and 40mm x 40mm calls out to me

Quotejust looking back at this thread and 40mm x 40mm calls out to me

My current "standard" basing for ancients is 40x20 for a standard unit, 40x30 for cavalry then 40x40 for deeper units. Seems to work pretty well and been able to put stuff together reasonably quickly while still looking decent. It's then easy to scale up if I want to make bigger units in future.

I've a few projects doing "diorama-style" basing (usually 80x40 or 100x50 standard) then a couple on 25x25, generally 19th/20th C stuff where manoeuvre is more important. 

I just wish I had the time to produce in multiple set ups

I may opt for different formats for different scales

QuoteI just wish I had the time to produce in multiple set ups

I may opt for different formats for different scales

It's generally matched armies, so my 80x40 bases are for the ECW who will only really be fighting each other (or maybe some Scots and Irish down the line) and for the Trojan War which I also see as a bit of a special project, though I am contemplating scaling that one down. 


Then my 100x50 are sengoku jidai Japan so again a bit of a special case as they only fight each other and maybe some Koreans if they ever get done in 10mm. 

Mostly using bigger bases, e.g. for early modern mixed arms units to get a nice mix of types and look. Will likely do the same for anything up to mid 18th C. Still unsure what I'll use for SYW and beyond. 

Then everything else I'm standardising to a 40mm frontage (ancient/medieval) or 25mm (long 19th C/early 20th C)

Of course I might do something completely different when I start another new project down the line... 

of course and that's your prerogative or should that be purgative?   

Quoteof course and that's your prerogative or should that be purgative?   

I could definitely be accused of some verbal purgative when it comes to discussing basing! 

Quote from: mmcv on 28 February 2023, 01:03:01 PMI could definitely be accused of some verbal purgative when it comes to discussing basing! 

I am hopelessly inadequate when it comes to basing and have less decisiveness than Mavis 

I have found several styles of basing that I think fit with different periods.   I then stick to that basing for everything in that period so they all match.

Having uniform basing hides a multitude of differences between the figures, including painting styles and figures from different ranges.

The downside is that it means anything bought painted and based has to be rebased

I dont mind picking a size for a base its the how many figures to use that gets me afterwards....

Just in case you good people were heading to a conclusion, there seems to be a thread assumption that some fixed base size is the right solution if only we could agree one.   Whereas lots of older rules (and even newish ones like ESR) have variable frontages to represent different sized formations.   Personally I've tended to stick to 40mm or 60mm widths but its way easier to tweak rules than rebase e.g. if you want to play DBA with your 80mm Impetus based army or have your 120mm base represent two or 4 (depending on depth) 60mm "elements" with some counter to show the true number of bases.

QuoteI dont mind picking a size for a base its the how many figures to use that gets me afterwards....

Yeah I like a well populated base but I also like actually finishing units so there's the balance there between aesthetics and practicality...

QuoteJust in case you good people were heading to a conclusion, there seems to be a thread assumption that some fixed base size is the right solution if only we could agree one.  Whereas lots of older rules (and even newish ones like ESR) have variable frontages to represent different sized formations.  Personally I've tended to stick to 40mm or 60mm widths but its way easier to tweak rules than rebase e.g. if you want to play DBA with your 80mm Impetus based army or have your 120mm base represent two or 4 (depending on depth) 60mm "elements" with some counter to show the true number of bases.

Absolutely, my goal is more to find a standard that works for me and let's me play a range of games. I'd generally fudge the rules over rebasing to suit a ruleset. As above it's the balance between aesthetics and practicality. I find myself having less and less hobby time these days so want to generally be able to get something done in a couple of sittings. 

QuoteI have found several styles of basing that I think fit with different periods.  I then stick to that basing for everything in that period so they all match.

Having uniform basing hides a multitude of differences between the figures, including painting styles and figures from different ranges.

The downside is that it means anything bought painted and based has to be rebased

This is pretty much where I'm at, though I've never bought prepainted armies and no plans to in the near future so not such a concern. It's usually more undoing some poor basing decisions I made early on trying to follow conventions written by 28mm people taking a "do the same bases but more figures" approach to smaller scales.

Quote from: mmcv on 01 March 2023, 11:41:56 AMYeah I like a well populated base but I also like actually finishing units so there's the balance there between aesthetics and practicality...

the matrix that the various figure density/troop types generate from each ruleset EVEN if you find a standard base you are happy with is HUGE

wibble

 

I used to stick to 40mm frontages but now have switched mostly to 60mm for earlier periods or a combination of 30mm and 60mm for late C19th onwards.
It's depths I have more trouble with especially pikeman at the level or 45 degrees!  I don't like the empty space in front but if the pikes overhang the base they always get damaged