Quote from: mad lemmey on 18 April 2020, 08:36:14 PM
Ahem, gentlemen.
Polite reminder:
Politics to be left (or right) at the door please.

Rude reminder:
Oi you ********* ******** ******** ******* it ********** ******* **** and shove ***** *******!
Thank you.

Well said, Will.

We'll have to lock this thread, soon, if this keeps happening. 

Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 19 April 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Well said, Will.

We'll have to lock this thread, soon, if this keeps happening. 

Phil.

Can we avoid any mention of Locking. FSN becomes uncontrollably excited if you mention any form of restraint. 

Quote from: Techno on 19 April 2020, 07:39:55 AM
Well said, Will.

We'll have to lock this thread, soon, if this keeps happening. 

Phil.

My youngest daughter (she graduated with a 1st Class Hons in Nursing from QUB last December) has gone down with four other colleagues from her ward in a Belfast hospital - They have all the symptoms and have endured prolonged exposure tending Covid 19 patients with inadequate PPE.  She is also drained and exhausted  They were tested on Saturday but won't have test results until Monday.


The lockdown will not stop Covid 19 - it only buys time.  We will not eliminate this virus.  The Government failed to take this seriously. They gambled on the myth of herd immunity. They failed to prepare. They failed to test, trace, isolate. 

Don't panic moderators.  This will be my last post.   Good luck to you all. 

Sunray out.

   

Oh....James.

I'll bung you a mail.

I think it goes without saying that the whole forum sends you and your daughter the absolute ultimate in best wishes.

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Techno on 19 April 2020, 10:40:07 AM
Oh....James.

I'll bung you a mail.

I think it goes without saying that the whole forum sends you and your daughter the absolute ultimate in best wishes.

Cheers - Phil

Indeed,  and thoughts are with all who are enduring being put in harms way on a daily basis, we owe a great deal to them and those of us who do need to are indeed fortunate.

Lib Dems are saying NHS staff should be getting SErvices Combat pay

Bit political there Ian But they should have had the pay rise in 2017 and that was blocked & laughed at by certain MPs so bugger all chance of a decent extra bung for them. Hell, they are quibbling about overtime!

And yes, I'll leave it there at the risk of getting politics involved in our political "representatives" response to the pandemic

Yes, good luck to your daughter James and her colleagues and the rest of our exposed personal.

I was not going to post again- but my wife  felt I should share this - It is NOT political.

The Belfast Trust contacted my daughter by mobile 1 hour ago.  She tested positive for Covid 19.

The instruction was, and I quote " you had symptoms on Thursday - stay in self isolation until next Thursday (23rd inst) - and if feeling better, report for duty"   No update on PPE shortfall.

She says she doesn't want to "let her mates down".    I fully recognise these bonds and obligations of comradeship - its been in our family DNA since at least 1 July 1916, Thiepval Ridge.  

But do these young 20 something lions and lionesses not need better leadership than the current crop of donkeys ?  Our doctors and nursing staff should not be treated as  expendable.

Finally - My sincere thanks to all my friends on the forum for their kindness and best wishes.  I will keep Phil in the loop.



James

Quote from: Norm on 19 April 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Indeed,  and thoughts are with all who are enduring being put in harms way on a daily basis, we owe a great deal to them and those of us who do need to are indeed fortunate.

Well said Norm

Our thoughts are with you and  your family Sunray.

James, my best wishes go out to your daughter and all those in her position and my heart goes out to you and the rest of your family and to all those who's loved ones are sick or in the firing line.

Blimey, that's rough, they must be pushed (as if we didn't know!) if they're telling her to come back in so quick :/

Good luck, on recovery and leadership.

With emotions naturally running high, I feel we should lock this thread. There are so many, many things I want to say, but it is not appropriate for a wargames forum. Enough said and I will not be visiting this topic again as it's not why I joined this forum .

I would disagree - it is one place where we can offer each other support.

Quote from: ianrs54 on 19 April 2020, 03:12:42 PM
I would disagree - it is one place where we can offer each other support.

This

Sunray,
Wish her well from all of us.
Hugs

As others have said we all wish your daughter and all that are at risk daily

Quote from: Norm on 18 April 2020, 07:37:49 PM
I don't want to stop posting in this folder, but if it continues to be politicised, I will stop visiting.

Me too, I sick of seeing other peoples' politics being paraded here.

Quote from: John Cook on 19 April 2020, 08:43:12 PM
Me too, I sick of seeing other peoples' politics being paraded here.

But happy to post your own earlier. 

And honestly, pointing out that NHS frontline staff aren't getting the PPE they need to do their job or simply to help keep them stay alive is a statement of fact, it shouldn't be dismissed as being "political."

Hope that your daughter and her workmates recover quickly and don't suffer much, James.

Quote from: Sunray on 19 April 2020, 09:28:42 AM
My youngest daughter (she graduated with a 1st Class Hons in Nursing from QUB last December) has gone down with four other colleagues from her ward in a Belfast hospital - They have all the symptoms and have endured prolonged exposure tending Covid 19 patients with inadequate PPE.  She is also drained and exhausted  They were tested on Saturday but won't have test results until Monday.


The lockdown will not stop Covid 19 - it only buys time.  We will not eliminate this virus.  The Government failed to take this seriously. They gambled on the myth of herd immunity. They failed to prepare. They failed to test, trace, isolate. 

Don't panic moderators.  This will be my last post.   Good luck to you all. 

Sunray out.

   

The PPE issue is not unique to the UK.  The WHO reports that it is a global issue brought about by stockpiling, panic buying, misuse and supply simply not being able to keep up with demand.  It has nothing to do with the UK government.  

Right then folks, this one's now locked.  We've been getting various reported posts for a while now and it's just not worth any of us falling out right now.  We all know that things are difficult right now, frustrations are coming to the fore and our collective patience is being tested.  Let's all take a step back and take a breath.

It might be nice to spend some time focussing on the positives instead, so how about we switch tack and ask each other what we're doing while we're in lockdown: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19655.0.html