Quote from: Steve J on 20 March 2020, 07:19:27 AM
7 days for a single person, but if that person is in a 'household', then everyone for 14 days.

That's what we have been told at work as well

Quote from: Steve J on 20 March 2020, 07:19:27 AM
7 days for a single person, but if that person is in a 'household', then everyone for 14 days.

That was made pretty clear at on of the 5pm press conferences earlier this week when a moronic journalist asked "but you said 7 days last week and 14 days today, did you get it wrong?" So they had to spell it out to the simpleton the difference between "one person" and a "household". Watching these press conferences has reinforced my belief that you need to be a particularly brain-dead idiot to be a newspaper journalist.

Sometimes journos do that to get a simple straight forward answer.  Its like when they ask what appears to be an aggressive question, but really its a soft pitch to allow the interviewee to lay out their position.  Gorgeous George Galloway fouled this kind up after his trial acquittal. Instead of replying he chose to attack the BBC as government lackies engaged in a conspiracy against him.

Quote from: Last Hussar on 20 March 2020, 02:35:51 PM
Sometimes journos do that to get a simple straight forward answer.  Its like when they ask what appears to be an aggressive question, but really its a soft pitch to allow the interviewee to lay out their position.  Gorgeous George Galloway fouled this kind up after his trial acquittal. Instead of replying he chose to attack the BBC as government lackies engaged in a conspiracy against him.

I think I can spot the difference between a clever question intended to draw out the interviewee and a complete dickhead! I refer my learned friend to the Daily Heil dipstick asking an idiotic scaremongering question on today's daily waffling from Boris. I hate to say it, but some of these journalists make Boris look competent and vaguely intelligent!

Fair enough.

I'm painting Austrian hussars.

Quote from: sunjester on 20 March 2020, 06:41:51 PM
I think I can spot the difference between a clever question intended to draw out the interviewee and a complete dickhead! I refer my learned friend to the Daily Heil dipstick asking an idiotic scaremongering question on today's daily waffling from Boris. I hate to say it, but some of these journalists make Boris look competent and vaguely intelligent!

True, but don't forget that Boris is essentially a journalist who got lucky and is possibly the ultimate example of the Peter Principle in action - he was utterly incompetent as Foreign Secretary and he's somehow managed to get promoted even higher 

I think both the floods and this have shown the true mettle of both the man and his closest allies 

Anyway, stay safe guys and remember: keep that one, last lead figure unpainted a just in case 

Regardless of what the MSM say, the infectiousness of someone with the virus lasts up to 33 days (the Chinese found 1 example of that). But there is a high probability that victims are infectious up to 7 days only, with a significant proportion up to 14 days, a small proportion up to 21 days, and with lower probabilities of 24 days, 29 days, and the 1 in 7.7 billion of 33 days. The actual figures were on Youtube somewhere yesterday, but can't find it now.

It's a numbers game, so roll your dice and take your chance.

Quote from: sunjester on 20 March 2020, 06:41:51 PM
I think I can spot the difference between a clever question intended to draw out the interviewee and a complete dickhead!

And then there are seemingly simple questions, which you'd think deserve a measured response, and you get this: youtube link. (Question is asked at about 2:10 in).

Quote from: sultanbev on 21 March 2020, 10:56:31 AM
It's a numbers game, so roll your dice and take your chance.

What's the saving throw ?

We can each only be as sensible as we can, I suppose.

I KNOW this will sound 'barkingly' stupid  .....But, in a way, I'm 'sort of envious' of those who have already contracted the virus.....and recovered.
I assume that they don't need worry from now on.......Maybe.

Who knows....The 'bug' Von & I picked up 10-12 weeks ago (which seems to have finally given in...Huzzah !!  )....Might have been the dreaded virus.....Though I think the chances of that are SO remote, as to be next to 'b*gger all'.

Again....Stay safe, Chums.

Cheers - Phil

The saving roll is, rather than 'flattening the curve' which is pious neo-liberal spin, we can all push the probability curve sideways.
At the moment, 60-80% of the population will be infected, but of those, 80% will show no or very little symptoms, 20% will be hospitalised to varying degrees. What I reckon we can do individually is push that 80% to say 85%-90% by reinforcing our immune systems. Even if you feel healthy now, that is actually the best time to do it, rather than waiting to get sick.

So, this is my "sending in off-table reinforcements" regime

gargle with tcp in the morning (as I've had a cold for a week or so with mild sore throat), diluted 4 parts water, 1 part TCP (just use the cap off the bottle to measure into a small cup)
dessert spoon of honey, teaspoon of ground ginger, teaspoon of ground termeric on my cereal at breakfast (been doing this anyway for last couple of years)
vitamin D3 tablet after one meal
elderberry syrup, 2 teaspoons three times a day after meals
random snacking on a few Brazil nuts (boosts selenium levels apparently one whole Brazil nut had daily RDA of Se)
piece of fruit after every meal
one cup of green tea a day
other times drink hot elderflower cordial, with teaspoon of honey and squirt of lemon juice added

Now you've all got a stash of long-shelf life goods, go out and get fresh vegetables, of which most shops still have loads.
And if you do run out of loo roll, the Murdoch empire does a fascinating range of coloured toilet paper, although I think they mislabel them as newspapers.

And if you've "recovered" don't get complacent, there is a probabiity that we'll end up with an ME epidemic:
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2020/03/15/the-other-potential-coronavirus-catastrophe-no-one-is-talking-about/

and don't forget, there is another 10,000-600,000 of these viruses waiting to cross infect as we tear down what's left of nature to feed a population in gross overshoot:
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-03-18/coronavirus-degrowth-and-self-isolation/

Mark

QuoteIt's a numbers game, so roll your dice and take your chance.

I'm screwed.

Sunjester will live for ever.

Orcs will cheat.

Quote from: sultanbev on 21 March 2020, 11:57:09 AM
And if you do run out of loo roll, the Murdoch empire does a fascinating range of coloured toilet paper, although I think they mislabel them as newspapers.

Not to be advised actually https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-51980820

UUUURGH !!!

Did you have to link to that, Graham ! 

Mark....Save your money...You don't have to use TCP....Half a teaspoon of ordinary 'cooking salt' dissolved in a glass of warm water works even better, as far as gargling is concerned.....That's what I've found, anyway.
Worked a treat, for me.....Try it.

Cheers - Dr Phil

Quote from: Techno on 21 March 2020, 11:27:59 AM
Who knows....The 'bug' Von & I picked up 10-12 weeks ago (which seems to have finally given in...Huzzah !!  )....Might have been the dreaded virus.....Though I think the chances of that are SO remote, as to be next to 'b*gger all'.

Both me and the daughter were terribly ill pretty much all through February. Recently thought "maybe we've already had it?", but are pretty sure we didn't - no breathing problems.

Quote from: Techno on 21 March 2020, 11:27:59 AM
What's the saving throw ?

In the absence of comprehensive testing and tracing we simply don't know.