Overall, I think they show some promise for 10mm figures:





Those are contrast paints over Nuln Oil Gloss over white primer.

One thing to note is that little bits you forgot to paint are a real pain when you can't just go back to that color on your wet palette.

Now that's seriously interesting.

I have tried the Blood Angels Red version, which works very well over Vallejo Iraqi Sand. There is a very interesting discussion of this on Lead Adventure.

Someone posted what I think was a 6mm T64 using contrast it it did give it a nice weathered look

I tried Creed Camo on a 15mm IS-2 and was quite shocked how reasonable it looked and I am an appalling painter - just about to try it on a 10mm Pendraken Sherman

Well since people are at least interested here are some random thoughts.  A friend bought the whole set and I've been experimenting a bit:

Someone on the Reaper forums compared painting with these to painting with watercolors.  Basically, since they don't cover, the only way to fix a mistake is to reapply whatever base coat you are using and then redo the Contrast paint.

Similarly, they might be hard to use for beginners because the thick coats that are applied require a heavily loaded brush and thus any slip up could put a lot of paint in the wrong place.

The level of pigment in each color of paint varies quite a bit and it's not easy to, based on the color in the pot, guess how each will look on a model.  This, combined with how much the color and gloss level of the undercoat affects the final result means that you really need a specific recipe to get a result you like.  To me, these are only really useful for mass army painting.  Someone with artistic talent might be able to use them more freely.

It would be nice if the pigment level was consisted from color to color and you could just add the medium to thin them out.  The white and black Contrast paints are exempted from this because they are way better than they have any right to be.

When using a wash, I often think it looks quite nice immediately after application but only OK by the time it dries.  I think these end up looking better after waiting.  Strangely the intensity of the color seems to increase which I wouldn't care to try and explain.

GW paint pots are terrible but these depend on consistency I'm not sure how well they'd work on either a wet or dry palette.

I'm not quite sure how to combine using these with regular paints and techniques.  For instance the metal bits on the orcs and dwarves are still black because I decided to to risk getting metallic paint everywhere with my messy dry brushing.  More monochrome models like tanks or space marines would be easier.

I am a figure painter as well as a wargamer of 50+ years experience.

I still paint figures for other people as well as for my own collections.

I don't think I'll be rushing out to try these new contrast offerings unless someone comes along and says "here's some contrast paints and some figures can you try them out for me".

I know what I'm doing with the paints I have and I'm too much of an old dog to learn new tricks.

What the hell are contrast paints ?

Paints with added water ?.....Are painters too simple to thin paints down ?   

I'm sorry....Sounds like a way to get folk to spend money on something they don't truly need.

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Techno on 30 June 2019, 07:31:32 PM
What the hell are contrast paints ?

Paints with added water ?.....Are painters too simple to thin paints down ?   

I'm sorry....Sounds like a way to get folk to spend money on something they don't truly need.

Cheers - Phil

There's that as well.

I went into a local GW store this weekend for some 'Matt White' and something like 'Royal Blue' .... walked away with something, not sure what the colours were. 'Skull Chukka light bone' and 'Glorantha dark gargantuan azure' ... or similar words were used. I remember going into Citadel and Early GW shops in West London and getting paint with names that matched the colour, but that was in a previous millennia.

How are people finding them over non-GW Contrast undercoats? I'm mildly happy with trying them over Halfords white spray but am told they're supposed to be only useful on GW's special undercoats (which is just a satin, as far as I can tell...).

To me.....(Having watched a video on you tube.)......They look like they're inks, mixed in with a matt or gloss medium, or possibly an acrylic varnish.

Decades ago I'd often mix the old Rotring inks with Rowney Matt Medium, and get a very similar effect. (I've still got a bottle of that in the drawer.)

I think the Rowney Matt Medium has gone the same way as the Rotring Artist Inks (i.e it's been discontinued)....But Rowney do an acrylic varnish....and they certainly won't be the only folk that do.
I'm pretty sure I've got a couple of pots of Tamiya acrylic varnish somewhere in another drawer.

If someone has got all the inks already...I think investing in a pot of varnish and at least trying to 'mix your own' contrast paints would be better than investing in a complete set of these new pots from GW....At least as an experiment.

Quote from: toxicpixie on 30 June 2019, 10:00:56 PM
How are people finding them over non-GW Contrast undercoats? I'm mildly happy with trying them over Halfords white spray but am told they're supposed to be only useful on GW's special undercoats (which is just a satin, as far as I can tell...).

Hmmmmmm...  

Cheers - Phil

They're allegedly very smooth flow, very high pigment paints that go on incredibly thinly (or thin out to), which is basically the same thing (or same effect, anyway) as a high pigment ink?

Have GW moved from "your old codexes are now out of date buy lots of new ones" to "your old paints are out of date buy lots of new ones?"

Cheers,

Mr Cynical

You could see it like that (and they do like their many technical ranges of "special paint for special things"), BUT mainly I've seen it enthuse new to painting people and/or get people who couldn't be arsed/hate painting back into actually painting mini's and getting armies/games sorted - which can only be a good thing

Thus far I can see me using them on personal quick paint stuff, but I don't think it'll change my commission painting techniques. Unless someone wants a sort of "silk effect", maybe?