Quote from: Leman on 21 May 2019, 07:38:56 AM
I also voted for France v Bavaria 1914 ... with both sides still using cavalry and the French still mostly in their 1871 uniforms.

This is what attracts me. It's like the end of the C19 ... and somehow poignant when you think of what is to come.

But I'd have to do Belgians as well.   

I voted 1944 Soves, based on my thesis that the most interesting games are when the Holy Trinity of firepower-protection-mobility is in balance, i.e., when firepower and mobility are sufficiently potent to give some depth to the battlefield, but without firepower dominating; which for me limits it to Napoleonics, 19th century, and WWII.

Seems odd to me to go for French v Bavarians 1914 on the grounds of pretty uniforms and the presence of cavalry, when French v Bavarians 1870 is the same only prettier and the cavalry is more use then. And the 1870 games would be better.

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Quote from: Chris Pringle on 21 May 2019, 09:02:08 AM
I voted 1944 Soves, based on my thesis that the most interesting games are when the Holy Trinity of firepower-protection-mobility is in balance, ....

Seems odd to me to go for French v Bavarians 1914 on the grounds of pretty uniforms and the presence of cavalry, when French v Bavarians 1870 is the same only prettier and the cavalry is more use then. And the 1870 games would be better.

Oooh! You make good points. The 1944 Soviets are I think, the one major force I haven't yet explored (though I do have 1941). I quite like the idea of a couple of Stalin's Organs on the table, maybe with some of the later heavies.

As for 1870 vs 1914 they are, to me, different games. 1914 would be company sized forces where one figure equals one man. Also has the attraction of adding in Belgians and British. 1870 is division sized at 1:20-ish. I will admit 1870 Bavarians are far prettier than 1914, though the French are little different. 

There is a school of thought that implies the Bavarians marched off to war in 1914 still wearing their cornflower blue trousers. I game 1870-71, but also game 1914 in 10mm for division sized games (i.e. Square Bashing) and 15mm for company sized games, and, yes, the Belgians feature in both.

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Quote from: Leman on 21 May 2019, 07:38:56 AM
I voted Flodden as it is a fascinating period and you can do the whole thing using Pendraken, and even expand it into Henry's invasion of France.
I also voted for France v Bavaria 1914 as this is a complete contrast to the Flodden  period, featuring modern weapons, but with both sides still using cavalry and the French still mostly in their 1871 uniforms.

Great minds think alike Leman ... that early renaissance era - especially late Tudor is really interesting.
And the French V Bavarians will provide a really interesting challenge to play.

Cheers
Mark

I first thought 'French v Bavarians 1914' was a misprint for 1814 and you were going to do something Napoleonic, but you left the best period out so I plumbed for the WW2 and modern options.
To keep it untraditional you could do 1944 Soviet Cavalry corps and 1972-75 Vietnam armoured cavalry forces,

Mark

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(Yes, we lost.)

Quote from: sultanbev on 21 May 2019, 02:44:12 PM
I first thought 'French v Bavarians 1914' was a misprint for 1814 and you were going to do something Napoleonic,

All in hand.   

I am rather fond of Bavarians, from the WSS onwards, so would like to keep the theme going to 1914.

Well that's got interesting. Early on, I thought it was going to be the later Romans and Flodden, but the polling now suggest ECW and Soviet 1944!

So it looks as if ECW (or W3K or Here come the *%^&ing English again) is well in the lead. I've been reading up about Dunbar and Aulderan, and am coming down on Dunbar as my campaign of choice.

I'm not getting excited by the Soviets, but have dutifully looked up the ToE for various Soviet unit types.

I have realised how completely ignorant I am about Flodden. To this end, I've downloaded a book for the Kindle and have Memorable Wars of Scotland by Patrick Fraser Tytler FRSE FAS on my bedside cabinet.*





*Not sure of the date but there is a plate in it: "St Luke's Sunday School, Wednesbury 1st Class. PRIZE awarded to William Bowine for regular attendance Advent 1901-1902" (The Midland Educational Co Lim, the City Booksellers, Birmingham & Leicester) Always thought it an odd prize for a Black Country Sunday School - a book about Scottish wars. 

Occasionally book prizes were influenced by the interests of the recipient, occasionally

Anyone got a photo of the BW26 Oxen Team?

Is it any good for James IV's artillery train?

I voted Flodden and would have also voted Byzantines if my browser had let me. Both offer great oppotunities for using not just excellent Pendraken, but also MM miniatures.

I think Flodden has it, with ECW (W3K, HCTFEA) coming a close second.

Has anyone got a picture of ELM40 (Scots Highlanders)?