It seems odd that mortar HE doesn't attract the modifier but tank HE does?

Quote from: fred. on 08 May 2019, 09:34:12 PM
The above makes digging in pointless for Infantry, as they are already Low Profile, so they get no advantage for digging in.

Low Profile results in -1d6 for the direct firing units.  Digging In would provide light cover which would mean hitting only on 5/6 not 4/5/6.  So both have benefits to the unit being attacked.

Quote from: Dr Dave on 08 May 2019, 09:59:50 PM
It seems odd that mortar HE doesn't attract the modifier but tank HE does?

Interesting, perhaps direct HE shots going long or falling short?

Quote from: Dr Dave on 08 May 2019, 09:59:50 PM
It seems odd that mortar HE doesn't attract the modifier but tank HE does?

Mortar fire is plunging fire, whereas APC HE fire will have a lot flatter tragectory. I'm no expert - maybe an ex-tanker can correct me if this isn't the case?

And as they are dug in they are hit on 6 as classed as hard cover. Personally I like the concept of low profile.

Yes, I think it has merit. But what is intended to be low profile. The rules say infantry and command units plus vehicles with the low profile special rule. But also a few IGs. Mark says AT guns as well, which makes sense - but which ones?

Not Pak- 43's or Flack 36's

Hi Kiwidave

From my experience as a Chieftain gunner I can say that the High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) rounds that we used to fire did have a slight elliptical flight to them (depending on the range), but nothing like the flight of mortar rounds. A different part of the gratical on the sight was used to aim when firing HESH as opposed to Armoured Piercing Discarding Sabot (APDS) rounds. And all though not relevant to BCK, I do remember back in 1976 the whole squadron firing at a large German bunker from WWII in the middle of Hohne ranges that was 8 kilometers away (maximum range for HESH) and the curve on firing at that distance must have been quite a lot!

As another aside I'm pretty certain I have seen film of Sherman's in Italy in WWII with what looked like the rear of the tank dug in (to give them greater elevation, presumably) and being used in a bombardment role. Again the 'arc' of flight of the round must have been considerable. 

On the whole I think BKC IV has got it about right on this one.

Cheers Paul

Quote from: ianrs54 on 09 May 2019, 11:55:10 AM
Not Pak- 43's or Flack 36's

Clearly not, but 6 pdrs or pak 36s? Then again, there's no mention of this that I can find, so perhaps Mark has misremembered it?

Quote from: T13A on 09 May 2019, 01:50:41 PM
As another aside I'm pretty certain I have seen film of Sherman's in Italy in WWII with what looked like the rear of the tank dug in (to give them greater elevation, presumably) and being used in a bombardment role.   

There was a lot of that going on in Korea too. Must be the mountains.

Paul,

Thanks for the info. Very informative.

The Shermans where probably at Casino; the nature of the terrain made shelling units on reverse slopes very difficult, and they needed a way to increase the arc .

KD

I am putting on a game at the club tomorrow
Having read this thread I am still not sure if infantry being shot at are hit on 5 and 6  or are hit on 4,5 & 6 but the firer uses one less dice as they are low profile

If it's the latter it makes it even harder for units to shoot at infantry in cover as they get cover and low profile bonuses

Please can someone confirm for me

Thanks

Infantry in soft cover (i.e. behind a hedge)

Attacker has one less shooting dice, hitting on a 5+

Thanks Fred

So I am hoping that means that infantry in the open are HIT on the standard 4,5,6
BUT
Each firer has one less dice per shot for the low profile

Thanks

Quote from: Jimbo94 on 16 May 2019, 09:08:50 AM
Thanks Fred

So I am hoping that means that infantry in the open are HIT on the standard 4,5,6
BUT
Each firer has one less dice per shot for the low profile

Thanks

Yes that's right.