The cavalry shooting range of 10 is presumably firing when mounted and if they dismount they fire as infantry (range 30)?

Ok - why are the British SP's less accurate than their towed ones, it's all the same fire control system ?

IanS

All helpful stuff chaps - keep it coming.

Some of the gun omissions Ian might be due to space restrictions (I don't have my PDF copy to hand to check) and/or a proliferation of calibers with very little differentiation at the scale we are playing at. But I'll take a look.
I know with the French list we had to cut back a lot of the artillery variants and likewise had to lump some of the AA together (20mm and 25mm for example) or we ran over onto another printed page for only a few lines of additional text, and also the differential was minimal.

The whole army list 'thing' is interesting, as personally I'd have opted for a few examples of standard type armies (say a mid-war US, German, Russian, Italian) in the printed copy and all the others available as PDFs. This allows for additions and edits after the print run and also greatly reduces the actual size of the rules books, which have a significant number of pages dedicated purely to lists. However, feedback was very vocal about including the lists in the printed book ... and that was 'our sponsors' choice as well 

But ... "you can please some of the people some of the time and none of the people all of the time and wargamers are just plain impossible ... so forget it!" 

Is this an error???
Opportunity Fire is listed on P20, P37 and P40 of v4.
"A unit which is under assault and any unit within 10cm may open fire, (in v2 this was Response Fire).............The active player may not change his mind about assaulting once the inactive player declares opportunity fire.........."

If this is correct and Response Fire has gone and is now classed as Opportunity Fire, then I take it still minus 1 and cannot use initiative in your active phase?

P37 clarifies Opportunity Fire as per v2 plus Errata and that a unit can fire once.

Therefore if you are assaulted in your opponents Initiative Phase and the unit survives and the supporting units have used OPP FIRE, then if the units are assaulted in your opponents Command Phase, then none of the can fire if Close Assaulted! They cannot "opportunity Fire" as they can only do so once in the turn!

Is this correct???

Thanks
Andy

Hi I'm Leonardo. I have received the new BKC IV and thank to Leon for his courtesy. I have two questions about Army list.
1) Why jagdpanzer IV is not "Low profile" (It's 1,85m high). Only the last model was more high.
2) In russian Army list there are tanks like KV-1C, KV-1S and KV-85 tha have the same numbers of Hit and Save value like JS-2.
   in my opinion this is not correct. the JS-2 had more protective armour capacities. The KV-1S and KV-85 had a minor armor that
   KV-1 to improve velocity (infact "s" is for Fast).

Remove the 37mm armed PzIII from the German Africa lists.

How do Recce units give the +1CV to a unit? Is it automatic if the Recce unit is part of a Fixed Formation? If it is outside of a Fixed Formation, it mentions that the receiving unit makes a 'nominal' command roll, but what do they need to roll to get the +1CV?

Dave and I looked for any clues in our game last night, couldn't find any, so simply reverted to the BKCII distances. The only table we could find was for spotting hidden enemy units.

Please help clarify as we're confused .

That's how they add +1, by rolling to spot the enemy unit. You need LOS for recce to be useful in this role in bkc4

On the bottom of p29 it says they can communicate with "any of the individual command units within that formation", but on p30 in the example box it says its the nearest. I think it is now meant to be the former since the recce unit has a radio and can choose who they speak to!

I think this means that in effect the recce unit could be next to a unit that can actually fire at and destroy the target, but the recce unit has to dice to spot the same target?

Nearest was the latest iteration, although I have played it both ways. I've found the best use is to boost FAO/C so that you can actually get some fire support. One thing is not clear - does the boost apply for the 1st roll or all of them ?

QuoteThat's how they add +1, by rolling to spot the enemy unit.

If that's the case, it's not very clear, but thanks for the answer.

Quote from: Dr Dave on 24 April 2019, 08:53:46 PM
Remove the 37mm armed PzIII from the German Africa lists.

To be fair, that one is in BKC I as well (dunno about II - can't find my copy atm).

Yeah - it's always been in all the books, but they were never in Africa! 

Quote from: Dr Dave on 25 April 2019, 09:04:29 AM
Yeah - it's always been in all the books, but they were never in Africa! 

Do the British Early War & Desert lists still have the Support Tank version of the A13, 'cos they were never built AFAICT? (Again, it's in BKC I - sorry, I don't have v.IV).

Nah - she's gone - thankfully

Phew! I am getting some things right 

No fear. You'd have been in good company if you did include it - Pendraken still make one. They were designed, but never put into production.

According to Chamberlain & Ellis on the A13 MkII (also known as Cruiser MkIV); "There was also a MkIV CS which had a 3.7" mortar in place of the 2pdr gun. Only a small proportion of vehicles were of this type." So they were produced. Hope this helps?

Quote from: Steve J on 26 April 2019, 06:00:00 AM
There was also a MkIV CS which had a 3.7" mortar in place of the 2pdr gun. Only a small proportion of vehicles were of this type.

If any were built then they didn't make it to the units. In France and Africa A13 sqns have A10CS in the hq troop. Which makes moving the formation around the table a bit of a headache. 

British list NWE:
- Sexton should be available all the way through NWE.
- Sexton should be accurate if the 25pdr is.
- Why is the Priest seemingly in 4 gun troops and not in an 8 gun battery like the Sexton
- Field arty cannot do CB fire? I'm pretty sure that arty / mortar location radar units were available at all levels in 45, perhaps earlier. I'll check. But anyway, sound ranging was.
- the lists do not make clear which batteries are "field" anyway.

Also, small point, Priest and Sexton are not aircraft!

The M13 AA half track, delete and replace with the M16 version as in the US lists.

Another small point : remove mention of M3 half tracks. They're all M5, M9 etc. never M3.

British Airborne can have 3 motor cycles as transport? That should be zero. They're very few and only used by couriers.

On a specific:

"Field arty cannot do CB fire? I'm pretty sure that arty / mortar location radar units were available at all levels in 45, perhaps earlier. I'll check. But anyway, sound ranging was."

That is because most Field Artillery are on-table, and there is a general rules 'rule' in Commander that nothing on-table shoots off-table (& before you sight air superiority attacks these happen off-table to off-table assets ahead of them coming on-table). Off-table artillery can conduct counter-battery on enemy off-table artillery.

But your on-table Field-Guns can counter-battery enemy guns on table (in the same way they can any other unit) - they can do so on a LoS basis or using the standard directed fire by a nearest visible unit basis (as per the specific rules for on-table artillery and mortars).

NB: I am trying not to get into radar - in BKC anyway.

Hope that helps?

All other errata gratefully received - even the flying Sextons and Priests - not really air-drop type units IMHO