Favourite poses

Started by fsn, 28 October 2018, 10:14:37 AM

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Which 4 poses do you prefer for horse and musket figures? (See diagram below)

Order
Shoulder
Support arms
Port
Charge
Slope
Trail
Ready (standing)
Present (standing)
Ready (kneeling)
Present (kneeling)
Prone
Prone (firing)
Loading (ramrod in muzzle)
Other

fsn

I am moderately well known for my dislike of certain poses in figures. Since I am more lenient about modern figures, and ancient are a bit more complicated in weapons terms, I thought I would probe the caries and ask my fellow forum members about their likes. I am not asking in any way to influence Pendraken, just to find out how far I am from the norm.

Please confine your answers to line or light infantry, 1700-1865, and I have excluded command options. I include a diagram as a guide.

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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FierceKitty

This does rather overlook the "horse" in the "horse and musket", doesn't it?
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fsn

It does. I may do a second poll.
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Westmarcher

Not all of the above are ideal examples - nevertheless, my votes now registered.

The "other" would be a "march attack" pose (e.g., SYP1).

On horses, I don't like the standing horses (e.g., SYP28) - you know, the ones standing with legs together and ram rod straight. I would much prefer to have had charging horses (e.g., SYP16) for all of my SYW cavalry units - more dynamic.

Oh!, I also hate "support" sprues - whether it be on horse* or foot figures - especially "ice skaters"(!)


* mind you, I don't mind the odd one on quadrupeds - I can usually cut these off as the other 3 legs are usually sufficient to support the figure.
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Horses should be trotting, at most. Infantry - its harder. Baccus always model them with left shoulder arms, and firing poses are vulnerable, also rather to wide.
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fsn

Quote from: Westmarcher on 28 October 2018, 11:35:29 AM
The "other" would be a "march attack" pose (e.g., SYP1).
I  think the charge is the most similar.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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petercooman

i voted for shoulder, charge, loading with ramrod, and then i had an error and choose "standing ready", while i meant to take "standing present"

fsn

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Leman

Like a complete dick I took a guess at what the options meant, completed the questionnaire, submitted it and then discovered the diagram lower down the page. think this is going to make the exercise pretty pointless.
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Ithoriel

Since I struggle to work out what some of the images are supposed to represent

For skirmishers - Firing and loading

For formed troops - march attack and firing

In an ideal world, of course, there would be scores of poses for each troop type but sadly, in the real world, Pendraken would be bankrupt!!
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philv

Why limit it to 4 poses? I like the WSS  range with lots of different poses. That way I can give each nation a separate pose. Is easy way to sort them at end of game

Duke Speedy of Leighton

Surprised this thread wasn't linked to Top Totty...
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Terry37

I prefer positions that first allow the figure to be based so the rifle does not extend over the end of the base, so vertical positions are at the top of my list. Then I go for the best pose to fi the role the figure is playing, so for lights and skirmishers I like some kind of action or active running type position, but rule one still applies.

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fsn

Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 October 2018, 05:34:30 PM
Surprised this thread wasn't linked to Top Totty...
:P
Now there's a thought.   :-\
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Westmarcher

Quote from: fsn on 28 October 2018, 12:51:04 PM
I  think the charge is the most similar.

Not really. See Code SYP1 (right hand figure)

https://pendraken.co.uk/18th-century/seven-years-war/prussian/

.... although strangely, March Attack in the French Napoleonic range is different and more like "The Slope" (see Code NPF1)

https://pendraken.co.uk/napoleonic/1809/french/

p.s. I have a feeling I might have voted for 5.  :-[
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FierceKitty

Of course, with skirmishers the choice is different; maximum variety becomes the ideal.
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Heedless Horseman

I have always preferred the 'Ready' pose...or similar 'advancing'. Firing/loading poses just look daft when a formed unit is  moving...but the 'ready' looks great for firing line, advancing or Square. Probably a hang up from the old days of Hinchcliffe 25mm pics in old wargame books! Somehow, I just cannot get away with the 'March Attack' pose that everyone loves...even though it is 'easier' in many ways.
I LOVED the 'Ready' poses in the old Peninsula range...must have given much hair tairing to the Pendraken staff a while back with requests...always accommodated! :)  Really should get back to painting the hordes...though eyes ain't what they were then.  :(
In other periods, the pose that I HATE is the running flat out...Penelope Pitstop, anybody?  :)
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John Cook

Shoulder/slope, for formed infantry, and marching rather than at attention.  Present standing/loading for open order skirmishers.   I dislike officers in a different stance - in other words, marching infantry should have marching officers and I prefer cavalry with sabres/lances shouldered and not a variety of poses like a bunch of red Indians!  

FierceKitty

Quote from: John Cook on 29 October 2018, 12:16:35 AM
Shoulder/slope, for formed infantry, and marching rather than at attention.  Present standing/loading for open order skirmishers.   I dislike officers in a different stance - in other words, marching infantry should have marching officers and I prefer cavalry with sabres/lances shouldered and not a variety of poses like a bunch of red Indians!  

I'd like to see hussars looking rather wilder, though I agree about cuirassiers and dragoons in uniform poses (very glad our worthy hosts were willing to arrange cuirassiers charging with sword pointing forward for me, however; they really look the cat's pajamas that way).
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Dr Dave

The slope for me. Line infantry advancing behind a skirmish screen would be at the slope until they reached the point of assaulting the enemy - which is actually fleeting in most games.

What I do hate:
Guard units at march attack
Cuirassiers charging
         both should all be sat at the rear in reserve

Infantry packs that say "marching" and you get a mix of right and left shoulder shift AND figures marching out of step!  >:(