ECW project using For King and Parliament

Started by paulr, 04 April 2018, 05:58:41 AM

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I now have a few specific questions about the Parliamentarians at Cheriton, on the off chance

Foot
Flag design
  Sir William Waller
  Sir Arthur Hesilrigge
  Major-General Christopher Potley
  Colonel Ralph Weldon
  Colonel Samuel Jones
  Colonel Adam Cunningham

They're going to look a bit boring if they all have the plain Colonel's flag and Lt-Colonel's plain with St George in the canton flag, suggestions :-\

Horse
Coat colour, flag colour & design
  Colonel Jonas Vandruske
  Colonel Richard Norton
  Colonel John Dalbier

Coat colour & flag design
  Colonel George Thompson's London Regiment (Blue flag)

As discussed the buff coat will dominate for the horse

Dragoons
Coat colour
  Sir William Waller's Regiment of Dragoons – I suspect yellow ;)

Any information appreciated
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pierre the shy

Quote from: d_Guy on 08 June 2018, 02:10:17 PM
That's great news, Peter. I think anyone who does W3K period should have access to these books. As you probably know they have all of Montrose's 1644-45 battles (omitting only Justice Mills). Occasionally some details are wrong here and there but does not distract from their usefulness. They include the only battle of the period fought here in North America so what's not to like.  :)

Unfortunately these are not the 5 scenario books D Guy.  The ones I have are the 2 Scots colours books and general books about the Royalist and Covenanter armies by Stuart Reid IIRC....could be something on English colours too......its been a while since I have seen them  ;)

Still be very glad to see them all again.  >:<
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paulr

I've done a bit more research and found some of the info I was after :)
Updated list below

I now have a few specific questions about the Parliamentarians at Cheriton, on the off chance

Foot
Flag design
  Sir William Waller
  Sir Arthur Hesilrigge
  Major-General Christopher Potley
  Colonel Ralph Weldon
  Colonel Samuel Jones
  Colonel Adam Cunningham

They're going to look a bit boring if they all have the plain Colonel's flag and Lt-Colonel's plain with St George in the canton flag, suggestions :-\
All flag designs now identified :o :) :) :)

Horse
Coat colour, flag colour & design
  Colonel Jonas Vandruske / Colonel Robert Burghill
  Colonel Richard Norton
  Colonel John Dalbier

Coat colour & flag design
  Colonel George Thompson's London Regiment - one source says Blue cornet another gives an example of a Red cornet with a motto in gold :-/
  also commanded by Colonels Richard Turner / Robert Thorpe / Edward Popham / George Starr

As discussed the buff coat will dominate for the horse

Dragoons
Coat colour
  Sir William Waller's Regiment of Dragoons – I suspect yellow ;)

Any information appreciated
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Quote from: paulr on 09 June 2018, 05:38:31 AM
I've done a bit more research and found some of the info I was after :)
Updated list below

I now have a few specific questions about the Parliamentarians at Cheriton, on the off chance

Foot
Flag design
  Sir William Waller
  Sir Arthur Hesilrigge
  Major-General Christopher Potley
  Colonel Ralph Weldon
  Colonel Samuel Jones
  Colonel Adam Cunningham

They're going to look a bit boring if they all have the plain Colonel's flag and Lt-Colonel's plain with St George in the canton flag, suggestions :-
All flag designs now identified :o :) :) :)

Horse
Coat colour, flag colour & design
  Colonel Jonas Vandruske / Colonel Robert Burghill
  Colonel Richard Norton
  Colonel John Dalbier

Coat colour & flag design
  Colonel George Thompson's London Regiment - one source says Blue cornet another gives an example of a Red cornet with a motto in gold :-/
  also commanded by Colonels Richard Turner / Robert Thorpe / Edward Popham / George Starr

As discussed the buff coat will dominate for the horse

Dragoons
Coat colour
  Sir William Waller's Regiment of Dragoons – I suspect yellow ;)

Any information appreciated

Well done Paul! Yes, as you show, all those foot regiments have flags and coat colours attributed on the BCW regimental wiki site.  To add to your Colonels and Lt Colonels Flags a few Majors with a single pile why from the corner, and some simple devices, such as plates, might make sense?
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Quote from: pierre the shy on 09 June 2018, 01:50:51 AM
Unfortunately these are not the 5 scenario books D Guy.  The ones I have are the 2 Scots colours books and general books about the Royalist and Covenanter armies by Stuart Reid IIRC....could be something on English colours too......its been a while since I have seen them  ;)

Still be very glad to see them all again.  >:<

Dang! I now remember you previous post regarding the books. Should you ever have the opportunity to get them be aware that the Montrose scenarios are spread over all four volumes.
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pierre the shy

Quote from: d_Guy on 09 June 2018, 11:30:53 AM
Dang! I now remember you previous post regarding the books. Should you ever have the opportunity to get them be aware that the Montrose scenarios are spread over all four volumes.

Thanks D Guy. I found a breakdown of what battles are featured in each volume on the Cavalier website. At 17.50 pounds per book these are on my "would be nice to have" list as opposed to "must have" list.

I hope to catch up with my long lost friend today to get the books back in exchange for all the 6mm stuff and have a bit of a chinwag with him.

I know Pete C was looking at Scots ECW armies a while ago, which is why I lent him the books in the first place. Could well be another local FK&P player  ;)   
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pierre the shy

I got my books back a few days ago  :) They have a lot of detail about the later Covenant regiments from the 1647 - 1651 period that will allow me to field units with accurate colours (I am going to show colonel's and one other colour per battalia) as well as those units which chased Montrose around Scotland in 1644/45.

My goal has been to be able to deploy enough units to be ultimately able to look at fighting larger scale actions like Dunbar, Preston and Worcester using the combined armies that Paul and I have ordered.

I've been pestering him every couple of days with a text asking "is it here yet", but our parcel is still evidently in transit.   
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paulr

I've been doing some background work on labels and flags for this project
I have now sorted out all the foot flags, including a couple of units where I'm guessing the flag colour and have used Lt-Colonel's flags as the don't have any device ;)

On to the Dragoons and Horse next, I have quite a bit of info for the dragoons but for the horse there will be a lot of edged cornets, some of 'selected' colours ;)
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pierre the shy

Our order has arrived in NZ.... :) :)

Paul will be collecting it tomorrow.
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paulr

Leon has, as we have come to expect, been most helpful over the delay in arrival of the parcel

He had even organised to begin recasting before the parcel had 'officially' been declared lost

I spotted that it had 'appeared' in Sydney, I think let him know before they had actually started recasting and before he had wasted too much time on claim forms

It has now cleared Customs in Wellington and is currently awaiting pickup by the local delivery courier :)

Hopefully it will be delivered to my work's mailroom for me to collect tomorrow
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Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

paulr

The parcel sage continues ~X(

Despite the main shippers site saying the parcel had cleared Customs and it's location was Wellington at 11:12am the local courier's tracking has it having departed Auckland at 8:17pm :-/
I did think unusual for a parcel to clear Customs in Wellington

To add to the 'excitement' the main road from Auckland to Wellington is currently closed due to snow on the Desert Road in the center of the North Island =)

I'll have to see if it turns up at work tomorrow or Thursday :-w :-w :-w
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Quote from: paulr on 26 June 2018, 08:40:59 AM
... to snow on the Desert Road ...

That part sentence makes my brain hurt.
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paulr

Makes perfect sense to us locals ;D

The Desert Road passes through the Rangipo Desert, a 'barren desert-like' environment on the volcanic plateau in the centre of the north island

The parcel managed to avoid the snow and arrived in the courier's Wellington branch at 6:47 this morning :) :)
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Intellectually, I get it, but its 32o here.
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Quote from: fsn on 26 June 2018, 08:26:52 PM
Intellectually, I get it, but its 32o here.
Really :o

A lovely 1o here, I had to de-ice my car this morning
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pierre the shy

So the package is in Wellington - yay

Still waiting for the local courier company to deliver the package to Paul though  :-w :( 



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Techno

Don't talk to me about delayed packages.  >:( >:(

Cheers - Phil