Top ten regretables in WG-related history

Started by FierceKitty, 05 May 2018, 12:54:53 AM

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Norm

Well I can manage 5

That Practical Wargaming Magazine went to the wall.
That Battle magazine went to the wall.
That 15mm didn't remain as true 15mm - a most perfect scale.
That Average Dice didn't gain more traction in more systems (how any people actually have one?)
That retail has taken such a big hit from the internet, so now every town 'doesn't' have a model shop.

FierceKitty

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Orcs


1 The Russians instead of invading Poland in 1939 supplied the Poles with equipment.
2 Henry V111 successfully invades France in 1523. Becoming King of All France and England - Just think the effect that might have had on the British empire (Actually the Anglo-French Empire.) America would stayed one of the colonies and we could possibly have had all the French Colonies as well.   
3 Germany and the Allies Declare war on Russian in 1945
4 That I could not stick to a single figure scale.
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Ithoriel

1. There is no "Die GishGigirFibel" explaining how Sumerian Donkey Carts were built and used.
2. Ancient Armies shamefully neglected to leave us detailed TO&E's for their forces, with the honourable exception of the Romans.
3. We have no contemporary images of the Wooden Horse of Troy.
4. Old Kingdom Egyptians and Sumerians were contemporaries but, with the possible exception of one fairly crude graffito, there's no evidence of military interaction.
5. The Meluhhans (aka the Indus Valley Civilisation) left no archives to explain whether they did indeed exist without a military force.
6. That wargaming largely tends to ignore the first 50% of military history
7. That the Romney, Hythe and Dimchurch Railway WW2 armoured train never saw action (bad news for wargamers but good news for the UK, I think)
8. Britain failing to lend military support to either side in the American Civil War. "Pickett's Charge Of The Light Brigade" anyone?
9. Russia failing to develop aircraft powerful enough to make the Antonov A-40 glider tank a practical proposition.
10. That the worse a culture behaves the more likely it is to have cool uniforms and cool "toys!"
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paulr

08 May 2018, 02:17:26 AM #19 Last Edit: 08 May 2018, 02:19:23 AM by paulr
Quote from: Norm on 07 May 2018, 10:50:24 PM
That Average Dice didn't gain more traction in more systems (how any people actually have one?)
That retail has taken such a big hit from the internet, so now every town 'doesn't' have a model shop.

Our regular host has several Average dice and they feature in firing and morale in his Napoleonic rules, along with bounce sticks for the artillery :) :D

We have seen a recent spate of closures of our 'local' model shops, the nearest is now about 35km (22 miles) away :(
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FierceKitty

Quote from: Ithoriel on 08 May 2018, 01:28:25 AM

4. Old Kingdom Egyptians and Sumerians were contemporaries but, with the possible exception of one fairly crude graffito, there's no evidence of military interaction.


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fsn

Quote from: Ithoriel on 08 May 2018, 01:28:25 AM
10. That the worse a culture behaves the more likely it is to have cool uniforms and cool "toys!"
I am trying to think of some example to refute this .... and apart from the Spitfire and Centurion (coolest of all toys), I can't.

Except perhaps the RCMP.
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toxicpixie

Quote from: Orcs on 08 May 2018, 12:07:30 AM
1 The Russians instead of invading Poland in 1939 supplied the Poles with equipment.

They were ready to intervene directly in Czechoslovakia in '38 - the troops were ready to go at the Soviet border but Britain and France brokered a peaceful resolution. After spending the best of a decade trying to warn about the Nazi's and drum up an anti-Nazi coaltion they then gave up, correctly divining the imperialist countries were more anti-Soviet than anti-Nazi. Which bears that rather awkward fruit so little later...

A good "what if" is the Czechs say "stuff it" and take Russian help, and whether that sparks a '38 war between a deeply unready Nazi Germany, a pre-purge Soviet Union and a host of "independent" central European states, then possibly dragging in Britain & France...
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toxicpixie

No, but from many PoV not supporting the Czechoslovakians was certainly a regrettable incident; from a wargamers PoV you can have an amazing range of exciting engagements if anyone did. It immediately brings in Poland and/or Romania as well, as neither was very willing to let tens of thousands of Soviet troops through their borders...
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fsn

It is regrettable that the following didn't happen:  :D

  • Napoleon taking on Wellington's Peninsula army in 1813.
  • Wellington leading said Peninsula army over the water in 1815 to sort out the little disturbance there.
  • Alexander getting over his bout of tummy ache and deciding that China looked like a good bet
  • The French fleets had joined with the Royal Navy in 1940 and so avoided Mers-el-Kebir and various other unpleasantnesses. The Battle for the Med might have been a bit different. Perhaps Crete could have been held? Certainly Rommel would have had a harder time of it getting supplies through with a French squadron in being, especially if French North Africa had also snubbed Vichy.
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Leman

Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 May 2018, 11:21:17 PM
I do miss the average die.
Try Honours of War SYW rules - the average die is very important and the rules are really good.
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Dr Dave

Quote from: paulr on 07 May 2018, 08:59:27 PM
Apart from stories of B-29s what would they have to tell us?

Rota in the Marianas became part of the live fire range area for the 5th Amphibious Group in the build-up training for Olympic and Coronet. So Rota was bombed and shelled because it was there!

It must have been akin to living at the end of a gunnery range without ever knowing when or why. It's not so much that I'm interested in what they'd have to say, I think that I'd just make fun of them - It appeals to the devil in me!  ;D

Dr Dave

Quote from: FierceKitty on 07 May 2018, 11:21:17 PM
I do miss the average die.

On a scale of 2-5, exactly how much do you miss it?  ;D

Raider4

Quote from: fsn on 08 May 2018, 06:34:59 AM
.... and apart from the Spitfire and Centurion (coolest of all toys), I can't.

And the Mosquito. And the Lancaster. And the B-29. And the Martlet/Wildcat. And . . .

Hmm, it does seem the Allies had all the cool aeroplanes in WWII (although I do like Me-262). Jerry just stuck to the AFVs.