Hullo,
Just came from the cinema. Yes, Mr Nolan has made a very good intense film. The sound design and Mr Zimmer'a Music in particular are very good.
Cheers,
Aksu

Dave's been waiting for this one for months now, so I think he's off to the Imax this weekend to see it.  I'm not a fan of the cinema though, so might wait until it comes on Sky.

I can imagine seeing and hearing the Stuka attacks in IMAX will be even more harrowing than in the normal theatre.I think Dunkirk will work very well on the small screen as well, as it is depicts the experiences of normal lads, very much from a claustrophobic grass roots viewpoint.
Aksu

It will be interesting to compare it to the John Mills 'original', which I think is a great film.

A very good film. Portrays the feeling of desperation well and avoided the temptation to become over vitriolic and nationalistic. My only criticism would be that the beach ques were not big enough but it doesn't detract from the overall film in my opinion.

It benefits greatly from the big screen and surround sound so is probably a good one to see at the cinema Leon

"Immerse and annoy": sums up the action nicely?*

Looking forward to seeing the movie.

Chris






*("Dunk. Irk.")

Oh deary me Chris. Time to get your coat methinks... 

Been singing the praises of this film on Facebook for a few days now.

One of the shorter pieces, for example:

"I loved the way it played with time and interweaved the stories. Given it had some half a million personal stories to choose from it managed a creditable telling of the overall story in a series of snapshots in time without drowning the audience in confusing detail.

A film conveying the chaos and confusion of the event without leaving the audience utterly confused too is a feat.

Nolan making a film only just long enough to tell the central story .... the sky is falling! The sky is falling!! "

Saw it on Friday and was, quite frankly rather disappointed.

I could see what the director was trying to do with the three different time lines but personally I don't think it quite worked; the film also lacked the sense of the scale of the drama desperate plight of the army on the beaches, the huge efforts to get them off and the heroism of the French and British rearguards.

But my main objection is that there were too many logical inconsistencies in the plot for the film to work.

Personally the John Mills original was much better as was the TV dramatization of a few years ago.

Quote from: DanJ on 07 August 2017, 10:35:01 AM
Saw it on Friday and was, quite frankly rather disappointed.

I could see what the director was trying to do with the three different time lines but personally I don't think it quite worked; the film also lacked the sense of the scale of the drama desperate plight of the army on the beaches, the huge efforts to get them off and the heroism of the French and British rearguards.

But my main objection is that there were too many logical inconsistencies in the plot for the film to work.

Personally the John Mills original was much better as was the TV dramatization of a few years ago.

As a regular cinema goer, I found the logic of the film to be refreshingly consistent!

For me the Mills version is way too "stiff upper lip" and the TV version was more all encompassing but less engaging than the Nolan film.

I also found the movie a bit lacking.

Also, those were pretty empty beaches....

Quote from: petercooman on 07 August 2017, 10:52:21 AM
I also found the movie a bit lacking.

Also, those were pretty empty beaches....

What In liked about the original was the couple of nice little rear guard actions . The blowing of the bridge, the Royal Artillery dug into the wood.   These translate well for small unit actions.  The game can hang on the delay turns caused.

Having yet to see the Nolan version - is there any inspiration for a 10mm game ?

Went to see it on Friday and enjoyed it. Not the best war movie ever made but at least it did not suffer from the Hollywood effect

Quote from: Sunray on 07 August 2017, 11:14:30 AM
What In liked about the original was the couple of nice little rear guard actions . The blowing of the bridge, the Royal Artillery dug into the wood.   These translate well for small unit actions.  The game can hang on the delay turns caused.

Having yet to see the Nolan version - is there any inspiration for a 10mm game ?

More inspiration for an RPG than 10mm.

I await with interest the Participation game in which you, as a Spitfire pilot, have to shoot down the Heinkel before it bombs the rescue ship :-)

Quote from: Ithoriel on 07 August 2017, 11:09:33 AM

At least in the picture you can see cars here and there 😊

Don't really know what bugged me the most about the fim actually. Hard to say. Just overall not that good.

I suspect it depends what you're expecting when you go along.

I have a Cineworld Unlimited card, for around eighteen quid a month I can watch as many movies as I can get to. So the more often I go the less each showing costs me. In an average month I see 4 to 6 films. My record is three in one day!

It does encourage you to go see some real dross!

I went, knowing Nolan was involved, expecting an overlong film that was the British "Fury." What I got was considerably more tightly plotted than expected, not quite a British-centric "Saving Private Ryan" but definitely something up there with "Saints & Soldiers," "Windtalkers" or "Days of Glory."

Boring old world if everyone liked the same things to be fair.

I think the title, "Dunkirk," raised my expectations too high. I was expecting an epic and to be awestruck by the shear scale and detail of ships, planes and vehicles, thanks to the wonders of CGI (used subtlety and realistically, of course), interspersed with loads of real life events and personal experiences like, say, The Longest Day or a A Bridge Too Far. Alas, it's not that kind of film and, consequently, I found it rather underwhelming. It did have a couple of interesting things going for it - the technique of presenting the different characters experiences then gradually bringing the threads of their different stories together and also the ear splitting noise of the Stukas, explosions and bullets, etc.  Perhaps it will grow on me just as Apocalypse Now did.

I think it was overhyped and the bar was set too high. Overall not very good. I might buy it for £3 in Tesco in a few years time.

For a much more thrilling spectacle with real characters go to HMV. They have the 2004 BBC miniseries "Dunkirk" for only £9

Wife enjoyed it. Me less so but not entirely sure why. I think the wife enjoyed it for the heroic spit pilot more than anything which is odd as for most of the film his face is covered in his flight mask....

Maybe I should buy a mask 

On a serous note, its not the most exciting film I've ever seen but then its not meant to be. I thought it was an interesting spin on a 'theme'. Will it be a classic in years to come? Remains to be seen.

If you want a more thorough piece of 'cinema' the BBC series was much better.

I would still love to see a film about the men left behind after Dunkirk. Their story remains to be told - many of those left behind spent five years in captivity, many more escaped in the weeks and months after Dunkirk back to blighty. For those interested in the story have a read of Sean Longden's The Men They Left Behind which covers many a personal account of the survivors.