Top ten omissions

Started by FierceKitty, 13 July 2017, 03:59:21 AM

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FierceKitty

There may be debate on some of these, but this is what I think is missing from the overall 10mm field (not just our good and gracious hosts, I mean to say):

10)  Thracians. There is very little available here. They were feared and respected in the ancient world, and much used as auxiliaries, but who caters to the gamer seeking a Thracian army? Newlines do a good peltast pack, but with only two positions included they don't really lend themselves to the main body of a fierce irregular army. The Pendraken Bastarnae falxman could be converted with the addition of cloak and pelta, but that's about it. Note that we have lots of contemporary paintings, and it's clear that Thracians really didn't wear helmets until they put on uniforms in Hellenistic armies. Cavalry, archers and slingers - irrumate omnia.

9)  Dark ages Franks. Horizontally striped tunics, shaved back of head, throwing axe, cloaks, and a reputation for fierce charges that heralds what they were to do when they learned to ride. Invaluable components in Hunnic and late Roman armies too. And nobody makes one suitable figure!

8 )  T'ang Chinese. Again, nobody does anything here, and they're probably the biggest and baddest of dark ages Chinese armies (lots of cataphracts, for a start). They pushed so far west that they banged heads against the Abbasid Caliphate far beyond India. And the Chinese regard the period as the high-water mark of Chinese civilisation.

7)  Hebrews. There were Jewish armies before the late twentieth century! And they had a finger in every pie for centuries.

6)  Safavid Persians.  Major enemies for Ottomans and for Moghuls. Some figures could be proxied (as, indeed, must most Moghuls), but there are a few that would need dedicated sculpts.

5)  Xhosas.  It's understandable that the Zulus get the limelight, but the Brits, the Boers, and the other natives in SA also fought Xhosas at great length, and they even have a sort of Joan of Arc figure to get them into worse trouble. And no, they don't look remotely like Zulu troops.

4)  Fuzzy Wuzzy riflemen. The hairstyle for Rugga Rugga isn't that similar.

3)  Tuaregs. Very distinctive shields, and the Foreign Legion could use some more opponents.

2)  Ming. Although quite a bit can be proxied from Sung ranges, there are still many types not available (including Korean allies). With Sengoku Japanese so deservedly popular, why doesn't someone give them their only foreign enemy?

1)  I'm sure anyone who's read this far knows what the grand enchilada in no. 1 place is.

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Leman

A mariachi band one assumes.  :)
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

No 1 has to be a comprehensive range of modern tanks and infantry........except Centurions....

NOT EVER BLOODY AZTECS, after all the chocolate would melt in the mould.
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Malbork

Still have my "Feed me Aztecs" badge :-[ ;D

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fsn

Interesting list.

However, I'm not touching this one with the proverbial bargepole.

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Just reflecting that perhaps this list tells us a lot about Kitty's proclivities.
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FierceKitty

Well, my no. 1 favourite is SYW, but I'm pretty happy with what's available already.
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d_Guy

Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 July 2017, 06:24:32 AM
NOT EVER BLOODY AZTECS, after all the chocolate would melt in the mould.

It is this very attitude that has recently caused me to proxy the big A's with orcs.
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Quote from: d_Guy on 13 July 2017, 01:09:05 PM
It is this very attitude that has recently caused me to proxy the big A's with orcs.


Don't recognise that confectionary
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old smokie

before anything new the other ranges should be finished off

FierceKitty

Quote from: old smokie on 13 July 2017, 01:25:49 PM
before anything new the other ranges should be finished off

Ahem...I tried to make it clear I was talking about the entire range of available 10mm figures in the time/space continuum, not clamouring for what I thought Pendraken should be making. There are a number of items on the list I'd have little interest in buying, in fact.
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d_Guy

Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 July 2017, 01:13:38 PM
Don't recognise that confectionary

Sorry - they are like the M3 Honey but without the gun and treads.
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Leman

Is that like a Crunchie Bar? I haven't had an Aztec bar in Years. Do they even still make them?
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KTravlos

I due miss my 1912-1923 Greeks :) And 1919-1923 Ottomans. Others I can proxy well.

old smokie

QuoteAhem...I tried to make it clear I was talking about the entire range of available 10mm figures in the time/space continuum, not clamoring for what I thought Pendraken should be making. There are a number of items on the list I'd have little interest in buying, in fact.

My comment was not aimed at you or anyone else for that matter I was merely stating my opinion, Pendraken is not the only manufacturer with unfinished ranges many others are guilty of it also. All the other ranges should be finished first before anything else new. I think we should have a poll to decide the queue position of all other requests etc for new ranges, and no Aztecs or centurions  ;D