Is anyone playing these rules?

What are you opinions of them?

I've got them. I've read them through with gusto. I understood the rules and admired the underlying system, marvelled at the diagrams and was generally pleased by the whole lay-out. And then I decided I would never, ever play these rules. It's a monster, a barrage of rules and exceptions and developers' private quirks two-hundred pages thick. Totally unplayable. It would entirely destroy my appetite for wargaming. It's a real shame.

Cheers,
Aart

We felt the same about FOG, but that was 2-3 years ago when we were still in the DBM-groove.

FOG seems quite popular with some other chaps in our club so we're now reassessing and looking at dipping in to FOGR for a 30-years war game.

They play well, there are differances between  FOG and FOG-R, but notr major. One of our club members who likes FOG feels that FOG-R is messy, but means visually. They do give a feel for the period, but helps if you get some guidance. Join the Yahoo group, and forum.

IanS

We are really enjoying playing DBA-RRR. A much simpler game with smaller armies that can finish in about an hour or less for a 1 on 1 game. However, we have been moving up to the Big Battle variant where you can have 1 on 1 with about 36 elements per side or 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 with about the same number of elements. These Big Battles take a bit longer to finish usually no more than 2 hours.  All of our games have been quite enjoyable with little to no rules discussions about how it should work - always a plus in my book 

If any of you are interested shoot me an email, they are a free variant but you will need DBA 2.2 to play the Renaissance version. And the army lists are about 56 pages long.
cya

Funny how tastes and impressions differ. Friends with years of experience in DBA tell me they've totally had it with the ruleset because they find it both messy and predictable, as well as terribly written.

We're all waiting for the Renaissance variant from Warlord, the makers of Black Powder. The book was scheduled for March and then we got Hail Ceasar instead. I'm told it'll be another month or two, but if their Renaissance set is anything like BP in relative simplicity, elegance and fun, we're sold.

Cheers,
Aart

Yep, over the years I have found that you either like DBA and all of its variants or you dont like.  Rules are a matter of taste and playing style for us wargamers 

I have gotten to the point that painting up 200+ figures for one army is not very appealing to me any longer, nor is playing one game for 3-4 hours sometimes having an outcome sometimes ending in a draw.  I still like painting 200+ figures (stills hurts these old eyes),  but now when Im done I have about 3-4 different armies 

It will be interesting to see what Warlord comes up with for the Renny period 

Quote from: Blaker on 17 April 2011, 06:29:21 PM
Yep, over the years I have found that you either like DBA and all of its variants or you dont like.  Rules are a matter of taste and playing style for us wargamers  

Sure, to each his own &cetera. What I'm saying is players of the Lassalle, BP, BKC persuasion who like their battles short, sharp and decisive should be aware that FOGR's QRS alone is a full 8 pages. I mean, that is just your quick reference.

If you are willing to sink your teeth into FOGR's seven types of foot and seven types of cav, each divided into five types of armour and divided again into four quality categories, all lovingly provided with one or more of a dozen special dice-weighed qualities and the stats associated with these, then by all means be my guest. Over the years I've seen players engrossed in much more complicated games, particularly board games of the old Avalon Hill type with rule books the size of King James's bible, and they were having a great time.

Cheers,
Aart