Rommel by Sam Mustafa

Started by Fenton, 27 November 2016, 12:36:40 AM

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A very interesting podcast with Sam providing a pretty in-depth overview of the game, which he hopes to have released around September - has my attention.

Ithoriel

Listened to the podcast - clear as mud.

He keeps talking as though it's a tabletop wargame but every description sounds like a board game - colour me confused.
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Fenton

Quote from: Ithoriel on 12 January 2017, 04:27:49 PM
Listened to the podcast - clear as mud.

He keeps talking as though it's a tabletop wargame but every description sounds like a board game - colour me confused.

After seeing some graphics and reading done titbits about it I got the same feeling
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toxicpixie

There's an interesting looking variant of BBB currently being tweaked about with that's definitely a mini's game :D

Scale is one (large) base is about a regiment.

TBH Sam's description of the square system for Rommel sounds like Peter Pigs similar rules sets - PBI etc. PBI works brilliantly. No reason Rommel shouldn't either. But it's a very "folks that like this sort of thing, will like this sort of thing" experience - like the pod cast says, "some people recoil in horror" when squares are mentioned :D
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Nick the Lemming

Having playtested it for quite a while now, it's definitely a wargame. I quite like it too. And yes, it has a similar board layout to PBI - squares to mark the table.

toxicpixie

I was sceptical of the squares approach until I played a couple of PP games using it, found it worked decently, and then found for PBI it was brilliant :D

If it works for the game, then it works. I wouldn't dismiss it - f'r instance I thought Maurice would be a really hard sell for one of my groups, with the cards. Turns out they love it, same with Aurelian!
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Quote from: toxicpixie on 12 January 2017, 05:03:56 PM
I was sceptical of the squares approach until I played a couple of PP games using it, found it worked decently, and then found for PBI it was brilliant :D


I was sceptical too, but it does work well with Rommel when you consider the scale.

toxicpixie

Tbh it might work better - we've tried Megablitz a couple of times but couldn't get over the look of it, when units only fight in contact and you have pike half a dozen models on top of each other it just looks daft. Squares would stop that, even with larger scale figures.
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fred.

I'm interested in this game. It does seem to have some board game elements.

But the idea you can do all of D-day on a few tables is intriguing.

As I can field a British armoured division at 1 stand = a platoon, I wonder what I can field at 1 to company scale.
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Quote from: fred. on 12 January 2017, 06:09:41 PM
I'm interested in this game. It does seem to have some board game elements.

But the idea you can do all of D-day on a few tables is intriguing.

As I can field a British armoured division at 1 stand = a platoon, I wonder what I can field at 1 to company scale.

Everything?
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fred.

Had a rummage through the figures, and I was clearly mis-remembering what I have, and had forgotten that I had rebased a lot of stuff for CoC as 1s and 2s.

While I have enough tanks for all 3 regiments of an armoured division at 1:platoon scale, I don't have that much infantry.

I pretty much have all the troops for a late war British infantry division, with 3 brigades, of 3 battalions each of 4 companies. Along with AT, AA, Engineer, and MG regiments. Field artillery seems to be represented at 1 stand per regiment, so just need 3x 25pdrs for that.

What I do have left in large numbers are carriers, 3" mortars and 6pdr AT guns - these seem a bit un-needed at company scale.



On the left is an armoured division, I can easily field the 3 armoured regiments, each of 3 Shermans and 1 Stuart, along with the Motor Battalion. The Infantry Brigade is a problem, would need another 12 infantry stands for this. Then the divisional troops are fine, with Armoured Recce Regt, Armoured Car Regiment, AA, & AT. And 1 SP and 1 towed artillery regiments. Could swap the Shermans for Cromwells to do 7th Armoured Div.

On the right an independent tank brigade. Dead easy with lots of Shermans. Could probably field another of these. But haven't got enough Churchills for a full Brigade.

And at the middle right is an AGRA, with 1x 25pdr, 4x 4.5" guns and a 155mm gun.



Not pictured I have plenty of 79th AD stuff for most likely scenarios.

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fred.

Also dug out my British and American Airborne

Again both have had in-roads due to CoC, but it looks like I can field a division of each. It also seems that the Arnhem area, from drop zones to the bridge, will just nicely fit on a 6'x4' table at the default scale of 6" to 1km.

British Airborne division - gone for 2 parachute brigades with 3 companies per battalion, and a larger air-landing brigade. AT and Artillery, along with Recce at the top


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Fenton

Nice collection Fred

After reading more of what Sam Mustafa has said on the Honour site about squares and distances I am drawn to the idea of the game even more
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Very nice collection you have

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Fenton

In true wargamer fashion I listened to Sam's podcast and immediately wondered if it could be converted to WW1
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toxicpixie

Try PETER Pigs "Squarebashing" :)

Looks cracking in 10mm!
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