Crimean war

Started by Fingerspitzengefühl, 12 September 2016, 02:13:19 PM

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Fingerspitzengefühl

Hi all

New to 10mm and the forum
I'm looking at Crimean war in 10mm
I see the current range is older than most
Anyone use proxies? 1870 Prussians or Austrians
Any thoughts for the Moscow regiment with the distinctive tall red Kepi?

Anyone have pics of them in great coats

Cheers

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Welcome to the forum Mr. Fingers!
Crimean War not my area but lovely uniforms - someone should be along to give serious answers to your questions

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

12 September 2016, 03:40:42 PM #3 Last Edit: 12 September 2016, 05:07:36 PM by mad lemmey
Hello and welcome!

The French 1870 range is more or less perfect, apart from the few useful bits in the Crimean range that cover the 1850s French uniform such as taller hats. Most of us use ACW zouaves for French zouaves as they are newer sculpts.
Rest of the range I've not dealt with, yet! ;)
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Welcome from me, too.  :-h

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fsn

12 September 2016, 04:25:37 PM #5 Last Edit: 12 September 2016, 04:32:41 PM by fsn
Greetings, Mr ... Herr Fuhl.

Might one ask if you are actually German?

I eschew the Crimean War, after a distressing incident whilst watching "the Charge of the Light Brigade". However, someone will know something, and will undoubtedly be able to tell you all about pork pie hats and buttons and so forth.

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Hi

Some pics of Crimean game of the Alma. 95% Pendraken with a few Magister Milletum

http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/BernardGanley/slideshow/Someone%20Has%20Blundered%20Crimean%20War%20in%2010mm/Battle%20of%20the%20Alma%20Wargame

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Fingerspitzengefühl

Thanks for the kind welcomes

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Chris Pringle

Willkommen, Fingers!

May we enquire as to what rules you are contemplating using for the Crimea?

Chris

toxicpixie

QuoteWill -  Most of us use ACW zouaves for French zouaves as they are newer sculpts.

I can second that - painted some up a year or so ago, and they were lovely!
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Quote from: Fingerspitzengefühl on 12 September 2016, 02:13:19 PM
Hi all

New to 10mm and the forum
I'm looking at Crimean war in 10mm
I see the current range is older than most
Anyone use proxies? 1870 Prussians or Austrians
Any thoughts for the Moscow regiment with the distinctive tall red Kepi?

Anyone have pics of them in great coats

Cheers


Welcome from an occasional visitor.

Glad you brought it up, subs for British Light Dragoons and Lancers at 'the Charge' would be helpful.
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Fingerspitzengefühl

I'm looking at BP using 40mmx40mm with 6 Cav 10 inf or one gun per base
British bn or 2sqn Cav edgy 5 bases
Russian battalion 6 bases
Battery 3 bases
Big Russian Cav regiments 9 bases

Yes I know.......


toxicpixie

I'm sure Chris P will pop up now I mention his name, but can I recommend Bloody Big Battles?

Full set of Crimea scenarios forming a mini-campaign, plays excellently and requires no tweaking out the box :)
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cameronian

I've been fascinated by the Crimea since, aged 11, I saw my first metal wargame figures (miniature figurines) which were Crimean, a highlander, a lancer and an hussar. I was spellbound, I thought there was only Airfix, then a friend who'd been to Edinburgh (Archie Alexander's shop, The Toytub) appeared with a little box of shiny, beautiful metal figures .... love at first sight. I'd like to game it but is there any balance at all, aren't the Russians fated to lose every time ?
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Quote from: cameronian on 14 September 2016, 12:54:00 PM
.... love at first sight. I'd like to game it but is there any balance at all, aren't the Russians fated to lose every time ?
You could always have the French switch sides? :)
Thanks to "Flashman at the Charge" and the 1968 movie, "Charge of the Light Brigade", not to mention being tasked with reciting the poem in fourth or fifth grade, like you, it has always held a fascination. FPW is probably as close as I am going to get however

toxicpixie

Quote from: d_Guy on 14 September 2016, 01:14:25 PM
You could always have the French switch sides? :)
Thanks to "Flashman at the Charge" and the 1968 movie, "Charge of the Light Brigade", not to mention being tasked with reciting the poem in fourth or fifth grade, like you, it has always held a fascination. FPW is probably as close as I am going to get however

Try BBB, it has a whole slew of Crimea scenarios where victory is determined essentially by doing better than reality :D
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Chris Pringle

Quote from: toxicpixie on 14 September 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Try BBB, it has a whole slew of Crimea scenarios where victory is determined essentially by doing better than reality :D

TP, thanks for the honourable mention!

Quote from: cameronian on 14 September 2016, 12:54:00 PM
I'd like to game it but is there any balance at all, aren't the Russians fated to lose every time ?

No, Cam, they're not. Far from it. Yes, at the Alma the Russians are just a speed bump, being heavily outnumbered by foes who are better armed, better trained, better motivated and better led.

But before that at Kurudere they beat the Turks soundly.
And Inkerman was touch and go for a very thin red line.
And Balaclava was pretty tough on the Brits too, and could have gone differently if the Russians had been more committed.
And at the Chernaya the French and Sardinians are sorely tested.
I haven't wargamed the storming of Sevastopol, but I understand the Great Redan was no picnic.

Actually until 5 years or so ago I had a similarly negative view of the Crimean War for wargaming, thinking it would be rather dull and limited. But the truth is that, in part because of the very asymmetric armies, it produces some really different and interesting games. Even the Alma: yes the Russians will be crushed, but in my scenario it's a question of whether the Allies can do so quickly and effectively enough to count it as a win in game terms, and also both sides have some interesting pre-game strategic choices.

There's an account of our BBB mini-campaign, in which we played the four biggest battles in two days, in the BBB Yahoo group files. We had a great time.

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toxicpixie

Pleasure, Chris! There was another thread recently I thought you might pop up in as well :D

Your reasons to play the Crimea are much the same as ours - always thought it dull, one sided, not really significant. Then looked at it, and went "wow". We tried a few rules but nothing stuck, and now we're set to do it with BBB from the Alma onwards (not enough Turks! We might revisit Kurudere if I get my "I can't believe it's covering four hundred years" Turkish army going again :/ ). We've missed the slot last two opportunities though, but I'm hoping we can sort it come end of October :)
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