Yes they did. There's newsreel of it in action in Hue

IanS

Yeah, the Ontos was definitely in Vietnam with the Corps, and I've seen the Army with 106mm recoiless rifles on Jeeps and M-113s.  But that's my point; it's a great weapon to have, you just need something to carry it!

V/R,
Jack

All,

Next up in my Vietnam stuff is some Peter Pig NVA and VC.  Now, please recall I've already shown you pics of a bunch of Peter Pig VC rifles, RPGs, and RPDs I'd finished awhile back.  But I decided I had too many VC, so I took some VC I had lying around, and some VC I'd already finished, and painted them up as North Vietnamese Army (NVA) regulars.  Then I took some NVA heavy weapons crews I had lying around and painted them too, splitting them between NVA and VC.


The whole gang: there are 28 NVA infantry, six NVA heavy weapons crew, six VC heavy weapons crew, sixteen VC casualty figures (which I'll also use for NVA), and an unmanned 14.5mm machine gun and an unmanned 7.62mm machine gun (the two reddish brown bases).  Unfortunately I forgot to take closeups of those two.


A look at one of the NVA riflemen.  To see a bunch more pics, please check the blog at:
http://blackhawkhet.blogspot.com/2016/08/peter-pig-vietnam-15mm-nva-and-vc-with.html

Well, there's my bad guys, and I love the figs, just solid, well cast poses.  We'll be seeing these soon; we have to, because they'll face off against whomever I go with from the good guys, be they Marines, Army, or Special Forces of some type.  More to follow.

V/R,
Jack

Nice work, Jack.

Cheers - Phil

Top work

Go for Australians. They have floppy hats, Centurions and the wonderful FIST, the M113 with a Saracen Armoured Car turret on the top. Already got loads of stuff in 15 mm for this and had some good games. There are some really helpful websites out there and one interesting thing is that the fora tend to include a number of vets.

You can have some really interesting scenarios ( which reminds me I really ought to finish that article ). The trick is not to make the overwhelming US firepower too effective.

One game I took part in some years ago at a WD COW had as one of the Vietcong options to not actually be on the table, just use dummy markers. The US player lost by the number of innocent civilians he killed etc.

Incidentally the VC and NVA  seemed to be able to move recoiled rifles and 23 mm aa around in the jungle.

Thanks Lemmey and Phil, I appreciate it.

Jeff - Australians just really aren't my thing (in Vietnam; I've been eyeing some Eureka Australians for Bardia and SW Pacific in WWII, and I love their Modern Aussies).  Not sure what article you're referencing, but if it's got scenarios, please do!

I do have Vietnam-era Aussies from Pendraken, used them in my Cuba Libre campaign as local forces, and I've got Vietnam-era Aussies from Flashpoint Minis, but I plan on using them as various SF-types.  I'm looking at US SF, LRRPs, SEALs, Mike Force, SOG, Phoenix, all that cool/crazy stuff.

Yeah, handling the NVA and VC in a cool representation of their elusive nature is hard to figure out, but a lot of fun.  I'll probably go pretty conventional, though I hear Peter Pig is updating "Men of Company B," in which that type of stuff is a feature of the rules.

V/R,
Jack

Nice minis!

Aspecially like the machine guns!

I remember playing in a couple of Vietnam games, multiplayer on the US side with the umpire controlling Charlie

A raid on a village in a small clearing in the jungle. The player commanding the M41 Bulldog got keen and charged through the village, as he turned to come back he went into the edge of the jungle and shed a track. He spent the rest of the game screaming over the radio for infantry support. Near the end of the game he was getting really nervous as he could hear Charlie moving closer through the jungle. He let fly with a beehive round killing half the US squad coming to his aid

The other game was a sweep across some paddy fields, I was the air controller. The US commander was chewing me out for not calling in enough air support. I responded, "if you weren't getting people wounded so quickly I wouldn't be calling in all these medivac missions and would have time to call more air support". For some reason my response was not well received, at least by the main commander

One of our best was a tiger hunt!
Whoever bagged the tigger got a free pass home.
Amazing how Buddist monks resemble felines at 200yrd in the brush.

Another great game was Players controlling VC attempting to down a radio mast. US forces were randomly deployed and each had their own objectives

Another good one is cache search for US troops, and cache evacuation for VC.

Thanks Peter!

And I need to get a tiger.

V/R,
Jack

Depends on what scale but Peter Pig do one  (a tiger that is) in their Nam range. Pack also includes a Bhuddist monk and the Cavalry Colonel from Apocalypse Now, though sadly not surfing.

Finally got round to looking at my Vietnam Firebases Osprey by Randy EM Foster. Didn't spot any references to recoiless rifles but there are some excellent diagrams of bases and emplacements, plus some scenario ideas. Randy is of course a pseudonym as the bio in the book will readily show.

In the past we've used the CWC rules for Nam games, with a few tweaks round tunnels, boobytraps and ambushes. Timecast do some good Nam stuff in both 10 and 15 mm scales, including bunkers and caches.

Something else I've used from the PP AK47 range is the TV crew. They wander the battlefield generally totally pissing off the US Commander by getting in the way. I also use a couple of them as "Intelligence weenies" who need to be escorted or rescued. Not sure if there is anything similar in any of the Pendraken ranges?

I like to put stories to some of the stuff I use. VC have a US 4.2" mortar (from someone's bits box of Battlefront WW2 stuff). It came from a supply sergeant who was sleeping with the local VC Commander's daughter.

If you want a scenario idea how about this. The Soviet 130mm guns outranged everything in US inventory except the 175mm so guns. So an incursion is launched into theDMZ to take out some in cave emplacements. But as this incursion cannot happen the US must bring back any damaged vehicles. Bodies can be explained away as North Vietnamese trickery but a set of dead M113s would be ideal to show that Swedish TV crew.

You know I don't think I've ever had so much trouble with autocorrect as this post. It's a CIA Plot I tell you *dons tinfoil hat*.

  great ideas!

Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 September 2016, 04:26:46 PM
great ideas!

Thank you for that comment. It comes from a draft article about Vietnam that I really ought to revise and finish. It's part of a very slow motion series called "Campaigns for scenario writers"  designed to give people ideas for the sort of historically based scenarios that suit the feel of a particular period or conflict. Several earlier ones have appeared in WI or Miniature Wargames under various different editors.

I try to look for things people might not think about doing. For example in 7YW opposed beach assaults by the British against French or Spanish defences were not uncommon. It was the subject of my MA dissertation so I did a fair bit of archival research.

Went all the way from Merseyside to National Archives to consult, among other things,  the AAR from Colonel Draper who commanded the successful attack on Manila in 1762. Nearly didn't get it as I had to wait for it to be brought from remote storage, in a salt mine within 20 miles of my home.

All,

I absolutely hate going to Jimmi's webpage (Flashpoint Miniatures, from Down Under)!  Whenever I'm there I start looking around, and I don't really need anything, but I skip from page to page, pic to pic, thinking 'wow, that would be really cool on the table!'  And that's how I ended up with some Flashpoint Minis' 15mm US Tank Riders for the Vietnam War (amongst other things, but that's in a different post).


The whole group, 28 troops.  They come as individuals, I glued them to popsicle sticks.  I'm leaving them on the sticks so I can place and remove the troops from vehicles.  It looks like it will actually work.  There is a good mix of M-16s, M-60s, and M-79s, though no M-14s.  I gave them a quick olive drab paintjob and wash, and I'm pretty happy with them.

To see a bunch more photos, please check the blog at:
http://blackhawkhet.blogspot.com/2016/09/flashpoint-miniatures-vietnam-15mm-us.html

Pretty cool, eh?  I really like them.  I suppose I need to buy some M-113s, and these guys can serve as Doggies, or even ARVN.  We are coming up on a long weekend, and I've got all kinds of plans for games, so stand by.

V/R,
Jack

 

Cheers - Phil

Top idea, great work

Good stuff jack, definately a good idea to 'base' them in groups.

Thanks guys.

On a side note, I've had some Pendraken WWII Russian tank riders lying around for quite some time.  Now that I've got this figured out, I figure I'll give them the same treatment.

V/R,
Jack

Quote from: bigjackmac on 02 September 2016, 01:39:28 AM
All,

I absolutely hate going to Jimmi's webpage (Flashpoint Miniatures, from Down Under)!  Whenever I'm there I start looking around, and I don't really need anything, but I skip from page to page, pic to pic, thinking 'wow, that would be really cool on the table!'  And that's how I ended up with some Flashpoint Minis' 15mm US Tank Riders for the Vietnam War (amongst other things, but that's in a different post).


The whole group, 28 troops.  They come as individuals, I glued them to popsicle sticks.  I'm leaving them on the sticks so I can place and remove the troops from vehicles.  It looks like it will actually work.  There is a good mix of M-16s, M-60s, and M-79s, though no M-14s.  I gave them a quick olive drab paintjob and wash, and I'm pretty happy with them.

To see a bunch more photos, please check the blog at:
http://blackhawkhet.blogspot.com/2016/09/flashpoint-miniatures-vietnam-15mm-us.html

Pretty cool, eh?  I really like them.  I suppose I need to buy some M-113s, and these guys can serve as Doggies, or even ARVN.  We are coming up on a long weekend, and I've got all kinds of plans for games, so stand by.

V/R,
Jack
That's an idea worth stealing. Came across several references to US troops preferring to ride on top of M113s because they saw mine risks as the real danger.