Single or Double columns?

Started by Leon, 26 July 2016, 07:44:55 PM

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Wulf

Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 July 2016, 11:16:42 AM
THREE eight six! Ooh! look at you with your fancy-smancy cutting edge processors!

286 processor was good enough for my first PC. Came with Windows 3.0 pre-installed.
Windows?

Oh, another newbie...  =)

I prefer double so long as the columns are wide enough - depends on the font.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Double saves some space. You do need to put table heading at the top of each page as well. Makes the tables easier to read. 

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Ithoriel

Quote from: Wulf on 28 July 2016, 12:23:06 PM
Windows?

Oh, another newbie...  =)

I prefer double so long as the columns are wide enough - depends on the font.

"... first PC ..."

First computer I used was an IBM 360 :-)

Data prep sheets, punch cards, acoustic couplers .... ahh, the good old days! :D
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Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 July 2016, 12:58:59 PM

"... first PC ..."

First computer I used was an IBM 360 :-)

Data prep sheets, punch cards, acoustic couplers .... ahh, the good old days! :D


Can beat you both there:

First computer I worked on was an English Electric Leo Marconi KDF9, 16k of core memory, no operating system, four 1" magnetic tape drives, line printer, 80 column card reader, two paper tape readers, paper tape punch, a graph plotter and a electro-mechanical typewriter for a console. Circa 1968.

The system filled a pretty big air conditioned room and the air conditioning plant next door was even bigger.

Staff communications inside the machine room was largely by hand signals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_KDF9

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Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 28 July 2016, 10:35:36 AM

You will be telling us it was on a 386SX next


Nope it wasn't. I predate these machines by at least 10 years.
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OldenBUA

I think I would prefer single column.

Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 July 2016, 12:25:17 PM
You do need to put table heading at the top of each page as well. Makes the tables easier to read. 

This is a good idea. The tables with all the unit data would benefit from having the table header repeated on each page.

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Leon

Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 July 2016, 12:25:17 PM
Double saves some space. You do need to put table heading at the top of each page as well. Makes the tables easier to read. 

Quote from: OldenBUA on 28 July 2016, 06:30:57 PM
This is a good idea. The tables with all the unit data would benefit from having the table header repeated on each page.

Just to be clear, what do you mean exactly by table header?  Just the title for that particular table, or something else?
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Itinerant Hobbyist

Single is winning, but I vote double.

Doesn't matter I'm buying them either way.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

At the monment the columns in the "army lists" only have the header - ie what that column is - at the start of the list. They can cover 2-3 pages in some armies. BKC isn't too bad, but CWC is. This needs to be repeated at the head of each page at least.

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Quote from: Itinerant Hobbyist on 29 July 2016, 03:54:26 AM
Single is winning, but I vote double.

Doesn't matter I'm buying them either way.
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OldenBUA

Quote from: Leon on 28 July 2016, 07:43:34 PM
Just to be clear, what do you mean exactly by table header?  Just the title for that particular table, or something else?

What Ian said. The header info for the unit data 'Army lists', so Troops, Arm, Move, AT, AP etc should be on top of each page. Really helpful when a list covers more than one page.
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Leon

Ah right, I'm with you now.  That'll definitely get done, I hate it myself when you've got keep flicking back and forth to check which column you need.
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nikharwood

Quote from: Leon on 29 July 2016, 05:20:44 PM
Ah right, I'm with you now.  That'll definitely get done, I hate it myself when you've got keep flicking back and forth to check which column you need.

Yep, coolio 8)

barbarian

Don't you have a graphic designer helping you ? (for money, I mean ?)
Wouldn't it be more efficient to use his pro experience ?

Did I mention I am a graphic designer ?  :D
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Leon

Quote from: barbarian on 01 August 2016, 06:27:37 PM
Don't you have a graphic designer helping you ? (for money, I mean ?)
Wouldn't it be more efficient to use his pro experience ?

Did I mention I am a graphic designer ?  :D

Graphic designers are expensive...! 

I usually do all the graphic design myself, normally just flyers and magazine adverts, so this is a bit of a bigger project!  I normally work with Photoshop but I've just started using InDesign and I'm slowly getting used to how it works.
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barbarian

Be sure to check your marging and some other technical stuff before sending it to print.

Heck, I can have a look at it for free if you wish.
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Quote from: Leon on 01 August 2016, 07:19:32 PM
Graphic designers are expensive...! 

I usually do all the graphic design myself, normally just flyers and magazine adverts, so this is a bit of a bigger project!  I normally work with Photoshop but I've just started using InDesign and I'm slowly getting used to how it works.

Remember to include some white space.
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nikharwood

Quote from: barbarian on 01 August 2016, 08:38:52 PM

Heck, I can have a look at it for free if you wish.

He's superbly civilised, that barbarian ;)

Leon

Quote from: barbarian on 01 August 2016, 08:38:52 PM
Heck, I can have a look at it for free if you wish.

Thanks for the offer, I'll have a look once it's complete.  I'm fine with the margins for print and stuff, no worries there.  Warband came out fine, so I hope we'll be OK!

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