yes, I am going to game that little invasion of Cyprus.  I got the paint work of the Cypriot T.34s nailed - lots of images , but the Turkish tanks and vehicles are elusive in colour - does anyone know a link, publication or website that shows the Turkish paint work?

Its a great little war!

I have just found a publication Armor on Cyprus   The Turkish armour looks like shades of light/dark  grey ?

Overall US OD should also look right. Certainly current ones are a bright version of NATO cam. You could also ask on the TOE group, couple of Turks on there.

IanS

Found this on combat losses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reported_military_losses_during_the_Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus

hope it helps a few M47's where knocked out

Sounds like a fun skirmish/campaign (and the Brits can get dragged in)!
Not sure which side I would back...

Largest Helliborne assault up to GW1 on Nicosia international airport I have pictures of the Airport building Archbishop macarios plane is still there complete with holes

Sounds great - looking forward to seeing how you get on...

Thanks for all the encouragement.  I served in Cyprus (LCRA) in the early 1980s.  One interesting aspect was that the Greek  Cypriots had planned a stay behind resistance based on the old EOKA model.  However the Turks were ruthless in ethnic cleansing, r*pe of women and the rounding up of 2,000 young men of whom 1600 were allegedly massacred. 

Its the ugly side of war we airbrush from our games

The pretty side is painted shields, fifes and drums, and laced coats, I take it...hardly seems enough, does it? Are we a sick-minded collection of monsters, or just stupid? ("We" = humanity, not this forum.)

Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 July 2016, 01:38:57 PM
The pretty side is painted shields, fifes and drums, and laced coats, I take it...hardly seems enough, does it? Are we a sick-minded collection of monsters, or just stupid? ("We" = humanity, not this forum.)

I think some of humanity are sick minded monsters, others are stupid.  But the real problem is that "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely ".  It seems to take an unusual person who can handle power without abusing that power. 

Power TENDS to corrupt, absolute power TENDS to corrupt absolutely.

We are not necessarily slaves to our baser natures but it is, sadly, often the easier path. Lynch mobs are easier to recruit than trial juries.

My 6mm Sumerians now include a stand that could be either a merchant caravan or a nomad family on the move or, just as easily, refugees.

I think I can do without a stand of guards staving in the heads of captured prisoners with clubs, though I'm aware that that was often the fate of those on the losing side.

I think the point is that our little stands of painted men are just that. They do look pretty but thankfully they remain stands of painted metal and don't translate into charred flesh and blood.

Its a game, its escapism, and it allows the juxtaposition of two things that govern our lives - rules and chance.  The thrill happens when the rules say one thing will probably happen but the dice decrees another.

 

But in the back of our minds we should always remember that we are representing human lives, we don't glorify war, but remember the faceless thousands who never made it.

Although winning helps!

Quote from: Sunray on 09 July 2016, 10:27:38 AM
I think the point is that our little stands of painted men are just that. They do look pretty but thankfully they remain stands of painted metal and don't translate into charred flesh and blood.

Its a game, its escapism, and it allows the juxtaposition of two things that govern our lives - rules and chance.  The thrill happens when the rules say one thing will probably happen but the dice decrees another.

 

+1

Quote from: Sunray on 09 July 2016, 10:27:38 AM
I think the point is that our little stands of painted men are just that. They do look pretty but thankfully they remain stands of painted metal and don't translate into charred flesh and blood.

Its a game, its escapism, and it allows the juxtaposition of two things that govern our lives - rules and chance.  The thrill happens when the rules say one thing will probably happen but the dice decrees another.

+1

Quote from: mad lemmey on 09 July 2016, 02:10:38 PM
But in the back of our minds we should always remember that we are representing human lives, we don't glorify war, but remember the faceless thousands who never made it.

+1