Thank you for France.
France are so weak that we need all the help we can.
Hope the Vikings will come tired.

About prediction, I honestly think Italy will win the tourney.

Viva Italia!

Quote from: Techno on 28 June 2016, 07:39:55 AM

Cheers - Phil (I heard on the radio that a petition has been started, to have the match replayed..... )

As the result was 2 - 1 then thats 67% to 33%. So no basis for a replay!

I think that a rematch would only be an option if the result had been 13 - 12 (say after two rounds of penalties).

I'm not sure its the premier league having overseas players in that is the problem. As UK players can (and do) go and play overseas. Its more that the Premier League has so much money involved that it thinks its the best thing ever. Premier league teams haven't done that well in Europe recently. It also seems that while football is very harsh on upcoming players, it is remarkably tolerant of poor performances from 'stars' who often get to play on much longer than they really should.
Last night also showed that the England players had no idea what to do when things went against them - compare this to Rugby teams who at least work at getting the team doing the right things when things go wrong.

England has always had one major problem - let's play our best players, not let's play our best team of players. Prima donnas who all chase individual glory.

Quote from: barbarian on 28 June 2016, 11:06:50 AM
About prediction, I honestly think Italy will win the tourney.

I think the same, Yann.

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: barbarian on 28 June 2016, 11:06:50 AM
About prediction, I honestly think Italy will win the tourney.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 28 June 2016, 11:23:42 AM
Viva Italia!

Quote from: Techno on 28 June 2016, 12:29:07 PM
I think the same, Yann.

Cheers - Phil

Me too - and loving that he's coming to The Bridge afterwards 

Quote from: Leman on 28 June 2016, 12:12:03 PM
England has always had one major problem - let's play our best players, not let's play our best team of players. Prima donnas who all chase individual glory.

Too true.

MickS

What an absolute shambles that was.  They couldn't do even the most basic tasks, pass to feet, trap a ball, move into space, nothing. 

I remember seeing an interview with a continental coach who found it strange that the first thing we teach English kids is how to get rid of the ball (pass it) rather than keep hold of it and become comfortable in possession.  These South American youngsters playing street football are spending hours with a ball at their feet, running about and learning to control it at all times.  English players always look nervy when in possession and can't cope with being pressured, which was evident last night.  There were several times when we lost possession and the Icelanders were able to calmly collect the ball and play out from the back.

Quote from: Subedai on 28 June 2016, 09:42:38 AM
... he took players that had hardly any game time -ie Sterling, Henderson and Wilshire instead of players who were in form ie Drinkwater and Townsend.

I was surprised at that as well, at least Townsend had played regularly and hit some form (albeit in a relegated team).

Quote from: Subedai on 28 June 2016, 09:42:38 AM
What really amazed me was that -without taking anything away from Vardy- was that all the European teams latched onto the fact that if you play a deep defence you give him next to no space to run into and use his tremendous pace. I can't think of one Premiership team who played this way, all the defences were high up the pitch.

I think the difference there was the type of opponent and our style of play.  For Leicester, they relied on the counter attack, sitting back and conceding possession to draw the opponent up the field.  If the opposition tried to attack and leave a back 4 deep, it left massive gaps all across the pitch for Leicester to exploit.  In the Euro's we've faced defensive opponents that have barely left their own half in some games (especially Slovakia).

I am sorry , but where have you lot been since Friday morning

We voted to get out of Europe.  So the players are merely following the democratic decision of 17 million voters and got us out of Europe. 

  - Hislop strikes again (see Private Eye cover).

Quote from: Leon on 28 June 2016, 02:19:57 PM
What an absolute shambles that was.  They couldn't do even the most basic tasks, pass to feet, trap a ball, move into space, nothing. 

I remember seeing an interview with a continental coach who found it strange that the first thing we teach English kids is how to get rid of the ball (pass it) rather than keep hold of it and become comfortable in possession.  These South American youngsters playing street football are spending hours with a ball at their feet, running about and learning to control it at all times.  English players always look nervy when in possession and can't cope with being pressured, which was evident last night.  There were several times when we lost possession and the Icelanders were able to calmly collect the ball and play out from the back.

I was surprised at that as well, at least Townsend had played regularly and hit some form (albeit in a relegated team).

I think the difference there was the type of opponent and our style of play.  For Leicester, they relied on the counter attack, sitting back and conceding possession to draw the opponent up the field.  If the opposition tried to attack and leave a back 4 deep, it left massive gaps all across the pitch for Leicester to exploit.  In the Euro's we've faced defensive opponents that have barely left their own half in some games (especially Slovakia).

Agreed, but isn't the Premiership supposed to be the best league in the world? If so what are the criteria to qualify for that statement? Only being able to play a certain style and damn any other as the work of the devil? You would have thought the better footballing minds of Premiership management would have worked it out before they got around to playing Leicester, wouldn't you?

Maybe tomorrows England footballers need to play on Bream Sands beach for a few years like the Brazilian kids do on the Coca Cabana. if you can play on sand, you can play anywhere. 

Anyone got any ideas for the next boss? Shame about Cloughie going when he did, he would have made a great England manager but the FA don't like people who speak their minds and tread on a few toes in the process...so we will probably get nice Mr Southgate.

MickS

Saw that on FBook earlier, made me laugh then.

MickS

Quote from: Subedai on 28 June 2016, 07:10:46 PM
Agreed, but isn't the Premiership supposed to be the best league in the world? If so what are the criteria to qualify for that statement? Only being able to play a certain style and damn any other as the work of the devil? You would have thought the better footballing minds of Premiership management would have worked it out before they got around to playing Leicester, wouldn't you?

Maybe tomorrows England footballers need to play on Bream Sands beach for a few years like the Brazilian kids do on the Coca Cabana. if you can play on sand, you can play anywhere. 

Anyone got any ideas for the next boss? Shame about Cloughie going when he did, he would have made a great England manager but the FA don't like people who speak their minds and tread on a few toes in the process...so we will probably get nice Mr Southgate.

MickS

I would have said most exciting league rather than best league in terms of quality