PaK 36 for Japanese Type 94 ATG

Started by Kiwidave, 13 March 2011, 08:48:56 PM

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Kiwidave

Would the German PaK 36 (with Japanese crew) be suitable for a Japanese Type 94 37mm? No one makes one.... :'(

Gandalf

You could change the wheels on the PAK36 for spoked ones and try to flatten out the gun shield somehow.

Have you seen the rivets on that?

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Soviet 45 might be easier, all come from same root, the PaK36.

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Kiwidave

Cheers guys!

Another option might be either of the French ATGs, as they have flat shields.

OldenBUA

The type 94 comes with spoked wheels or with metal disc wheels, so you could also keep the wheels as is.

Or maybe you can switch to the type 97 AT gun? That's a license built PaK 35/36, so no need to modify. Except if you do the same as the Japanese, and remove the shield completely...
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Kiwidave

I couldn't find any refernce to the Type 97, other than the anti-tank rifle. There is a Type 1, which is a 94 with a longer barrel.

My fall back is to use the Type 47mm gun and call it a 37mm - the people I play with won't mind! :)

OldenBUA

Did a quick search, and found some references to a type 'Ra', which would be the same as the type 97. It looks like it wasn't license built by the Japanese after all, but that they used captured Chinese-built copies (and Russian built copies that were captured in the border conflicts).

The 47mm type 1 looks a lot like the 37mm type 94, so I wouldn't mind too! And Ian is right (again) as this type 1 was inspired by captured Russian 45mm Model 32 guns. Which was a scaled up 37mm Model 30, which was the Russian version of the 37mm Rheinmetall Pak.
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Gandalf

If you want to use the 47mm, Minifigs do one.  Their 12mm range is a good match for modern 10mm.  Don't let the poor paint job in the pictures put you off.  http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/JV83.jpg
Have you seen the rivets on that?

OldenBUA

From the 'WW2 Fact File' book on Anti-tank weapons that I have. As you can see, the appearance of these guns changes quite dramatically when they have disc wheels instead of spoked wheels. Maybe some gun from the WWI (or even colonial) range would work as well?

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Gandalf

15 March 2011, 12:11:12 AM #10 Last Edit: 15 March 2011, 12:13:12 AM by Gandalf
Unfortunately there aren't any guns from earlier Pendraken ranges with split trails.
The picture of the type 97 on page 31 of OldenBUA's scan is identical to the German Pak 36 which I think answers the original question
Have you seen the rivets on that?

Kiwidave

The down side of using the PaK36 as that the Japanese version only saw action in mainliand Asia AFAIK. I'm not a massive purist, but it's nice to get things right when I can - I'm putting a Iwo Jima scenario together.

OldenBUA, thanks for the pics - they are very helpful :)

Gandalf

Quote from: Kiwidave on 15 March 2011, 08:15:19 AM
I'm putting a Iwo Jima scenario together...

You probably won't need that many Japanese figures, just bunker and tunnel markers  :)
Have you seen the rivets on that?

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