Who what where is a Malburian

Started by Obsidian23, 10 June 2016, 12:00:58 PM

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Obsidian23

Ok guys and gals (do we have Gals on here???),

I have a dumby question which I know the answer is out there. :-[

What is the Malburian Period.  What were the campaigns, battles fought and did they all wear similar style of uniform?

Truth is I am not familiar with the period.  Does this include GNW, War of Austrian Succession and the SYW???  

I have been wading through the Pendraken store for over a month now to try and decide what I wanted to paint next.  Romans....  SYW Russians.....  Vikings..... Saxons...... WW@ 8th Army......  so little time, sop many decisions.    :-\
But then through a stroke of luck I picked up about 400 Pendraken Malburian figs for $100.  Sorry Leon !!!

Will post this elsewhere as well so apologies now!

Cheers and Thanks,

Scott

It sort of helped me decide what period of the Pendraken range to try out next.  Although I am not sure if I know anything about it. ;)

mollinary

10 June 2016, 01:15:42 PM #1 Last Edit: 10 June 2016, 04:28:14 PM by Leon
Term often used in UK to refer to the War of the Spanish Succession. GNW is usually considered separate. Uniforms are broadly applicable up to 1730s, and possibly a bit further for the French, but not really for something as late as the SYW.  Campaigns took place in Belgium/Netherlands/Northern France and Spain, and N Italy, and Westerna no Southern Germany.  More or less anywhere that bordered France really!    Big battles include Marlborough's 'Big Four', Blenheim, Ramillies, Oudenarde, Malplaquet, Amon others.  Uniforms are largely similar in cut for all nations, but with occasional differences. Most noticeable ones are grenadiers hats, which come in a bewildering variety!

Good luck,, it is a fun and colourful period.

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Hwiccee

Mollinary is generally right but not necessarily on the GNW. Many of the participants in the GNW war were standard Marlburian type armies and many fought in both wars - Saxons, Danes, Prussians, Holstieners, Dutch and Hanoverians. While the Russians, for example, are also mainly in Marlburian style uniforms but have some specialist troops - i.e. you would probably have to get a few extra packs to convert what you have to Russians.

As mentioned the key to which army/armies you can do is probably the grenadiers. So if the figures are still in bags look to see if you have any MAL 7, 8, 9 or 10. If they are not in bags or labeled then look to see if you have infantry not in the standard tricorne hat. If you then come back with which of these you have we can probably help more.

Hwiccee

I just noticed you put extra info in another post.

You said -

QuoteIf it does include the GNW I might do either the Swedes or Russians.

So to expand on my previous post I am afraid that the Swedes were the one nation who did wear strikingly different uniforms. They wore uniforms similar to SYW uniforms. But you could do Russians with some additional figures and possible not using some you have. The Russians were still using pikes and so you would need some of these. They also normally have Cossacks. The grenadiers have hats similar to MAL 7 and some units had a felt hat. But you don't need to have either of these if you don't want to. So if you get some pikes and Cossacks you should eb able to do a basic Russian army with what you have.

If you have other grenadiers and some other types, for example Austrian cuirassiers then you can't use these.

mollinary

Quote from: Hwiccee on 10 June 2016, 02:17:29 PM
Mollinary is generally right but not necessarily on the GNW. Many of the participants in the GNW war were standard Marlburian type armies and many fought in both wars - Saxons, Danes, Prussians, Holstieners, Dutch and Hanoverians.
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Don't disagree with any of this, Hwiccee. I was only saying GNW is not usually termed Marlburian.  Which I think I would stand by!

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Leman

I usually think of Marlburian as the first fifteen years of the C18th. Plenty big enough as it is more than twice the length of the SYW. Wouldn't consider the GNW part of it at all.
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mollinary

Quote from: mollinary on 10 June 2016, 01:15:42 PM
Uniforms are largely similar in cut for all nations, but without casino all differences.

Don't you just love this auto/correct/predictive text software? The above casino rubbish should, of course, read "but with occasional differences".  :D :)

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Leman

You do take a bit of a gamble with predictive text.
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Leon

Quote from: mollinary on 10 June 2016, 03:42:47 PM
Don't you just love this auto/correct/predictive text software? The above casino rubbish should, of course, read "but with occasional differences".  :D :)

Fixed that for you.

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Obsidian23

The list.
MAL 1 Foot Tricorn March Attack 64 figures
MAL 2 Foot Tricorn Marching 62 figures
MAL 4 Foot Tricorn Port Musket 63 figures
MAL 5 Foot Tricorn Firing 64 figures
MAL 6 Foot Tricorn Command. 60 figures
MAL 7 Grenadier cloth mitre British 32 figures
MAL 9 Grenadier short mitre Prussian 32 figures
MAL 10 Grenadier March Attack Germans in French Service 64 figures
MAL 11 Cavalry Tricorn 64 figures
MAL 12 Mounted Dragoons. 32 figures
MAL 13 Mounted Command 2 packs
MAL 15 6pdr gun, limber, horses, crew 1 pack
MAL 16 9pdr gun, limber, horses, crew 2packs

Cheers

Hwiccee

OK so most of what you have is usable as most armies, the grenadiers being the exceptions. You are probably a bit short on cavalry generally and will probably want to get more at some point - about 1/3rd cavalry is uaul in these days. You also probably have too many grenadiers. I suspect the biggest problem will be the MAL 10 grenadiers. Not too many nations had these and you have a lot.

If you did want to go for Russians you could use the MAL 7 grenadiers as there grenadiers and get some pikes.

You could do a 'British' army using the MAL 7 and 8 grenadiers. Possibly with some of the MAL 10 as Austrians who wear fur tht are a bit like these.

You could do a Franco Bavarian army with the MAL 10's as Bavarian and German grenadiers but I suspect that would still leave a lot of spare grenadiers.

Also of course you could do some combination of the above.

Leman

Or..... you could just do Marlburian and not have all that arsing around.
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FierceKitty

Or reset to the SYW, which lets you fight from Canada to India (inclusive) and includes horse artillery, more widespread hussars, some light cavalry lancers, and light infantry. Don't gwt to use Churchill any more, but with Frederick instead, who cares? ;)
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Leman

Good point FK. I've never bothered with Marlburian thanks to the SYW (and WAS).
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Obsidian23

Thx all, figured the list might help with your recommendations.

So would it be safe to say I could do them as an Austro-Hungarian Army from the SYW?  I actually have some very good books on uniforms of this Army .  I imagine that something like the British Grenadiers may not fit and I will need to put them aside for some other plan.

Thx all.