Wouldn't normally recommend this one, but for those of us being plagued by Windows 10, catch yesterday's "You and Yours" [Radio 4], via I player or the web site.

IanS

Yes it was very good.  Wish i'd heard it before the W10 virus forced its way onto my PC.  



I found that almost immediately Google stopped working.  W10 turned off the neccessary files and i had to run a Winsock reset to get it going again.

NSFW (from the outset and throughout)

Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 May 2016, 07:56:50 AM
Wouldn't normally recommend this one, but for those of us being plagued by Windows 10, catch yesterday's "You and Yours" [Radio 4], via I player or the web site.

IanS

Here's the link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07bt4wj

But... but... but I like it!

I was reading an interesting article on the BBC website the other day about this.  Apparently Microsoft had changed the way the Win10 update window worked, so when you clicked the red 'X' as usual, that click actually confirmed your permission for the update to be run on your computer.  This bit concerned me as I've continually closed down the pop-ups on my laptop at home, but so far I've not been hit with a forced upgrade.

For those fighting against it, the 'free' upgrade period ends on 26th July, so in theory the forced upgrades will stop after that.  They will of course be replaced with continuous 'Upgrade now for only £xx!' pop-ups instead...

Quote from: Leon on 28 May 2016, 06:09:55 PM
They will of course be replaced with continuous 'Upgrade now for only £xx!' pop-ups instead...

'Upgrade now for only £xx per calendar month!' I suspect.

Not convinced the "free" version won't suddenly require a pcm payment if you want it to keep working too.

I'll wait and upgrade to Win12

Quote from: Last Hussar on 28 May 2016, 05:06:07 PM
But... but... but I like it!

I don't !
That's why I'm getting teed off with Microsoft trying to put me on it for a second time.

Ian's post at the top of the page seems to back up Mike's 'find' about 'Never 10'.
Might download that after Radio 4's pet expert gave it the thumbs up.

But will Microsoft be looking for a way around that ? 

I'll just keep monitoring the updates and deleting the appropriate ones.

Quote from: Leon on 28 May 2016, 06:09:55 PM
I was reading an interesting article on the BBC website the other day about this.  Apparently Microsoft had changed the way the Win10 update window worked, so when you clicked the red 'X' as usual, that click actually confirmed your permission for the update to be run on your computer.  This bit concerned me as I've continually closed down the pop-ups on my laptop at home, but so far I've not been hit with a forced upgrade.

I'm as certain as I can be that I never 'gave them permission' to download Windows 10...So that sound quite feasible. 

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Leon on 28 May 2016, 06:09:55 PM
For those fighting against it, the 'free' upgrade period ends on 26th July, so in theory the forced upgrades will stop after that.  They will of course be replaced with continuous 'Upgrade now for only £xx!' pop-ups instead...

I've upgraded to Windows 10 and it still all seems to work so don't get those pop ups

I have, however, started getting pop ups telling me I'm not using the latest Microsoft Office, 'Upgrade now for only...'

I'm sticking with XP 

Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 May 2016, 06:31:30 PM
I'll wait and upgrade to Win12

I thought Windows 10 was the last one they were going to produce? Just updates from here on in.

I like XP and still use it, but it is unsupported and getting slower processing stuff . Time for a replacement me-thinks...

As for Windows 10, I too thought that this was the last one to be produced with updates from then on...

I believe that any 'upgrades' after 10 will be more like 'fixes' rather than a mega hyped launch of a new OS.

Apparently the Chinese are well teed off about 10 being forced onto them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36397835

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Techno on 29 May 2016, 07:30:53 AM
I believe that any 'upgrades' after 10 will be more like 'fixes' rather than a mega hyped launch of a new OS.
Cheers - Phil

Either MS is getting out of the PC OS market - in which case how long is Win10 support going to continue?

Or it needs to monetise Win 10 - in which case how much are those upgrades going to cost?

Or will use the OS as a loss leader to persuade you, or at least to persuade businesses, to use their cloud-based software ... for a fee.

I'm willing to pay later for the opportunity to see what happens when the mouse ahead of me takes the cheese from that wooden board and metal spring thingy

Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 May 2016, 12:29:00 PM
Either MS is getting out of the PC OS market - in which case how long is Win10 support going to continue?

Or it needs to monetise Win 10 - in which case how much are those upgrades going to cost?

Or will use the OS as a loss leader to persuade you, or at least to persuade businesses, to use their cloud-based software ... for a fee.

I'm willing to pay later for the opportunity to see what happens when the mouse ahead of me takes the cheese from that wooden board and metal spring thingy

1. Pass.
2. I wonder. 
3. They seem to be slowly winding up to that already, I reckon, Mike.
4. I like your thinking. 

Cheers - Phil

I'm happy with my Windows 7. Don't play games so no need of any bigger, better, faster add ons, just puttering along nicely, thank you.


MickS