Reintegrating....
After several days of ever increasing discomfort old Ben was finally able to take a chot.

The fingers. Peace. Or whatever it is. I hate it and it drives me crazy every time I see it!

Hate and War to you then Roy, if that's what makes y'all happy.

She's actually ordering to cold ones, Roy.  I initially missed the fingers while concentrating on the patriotic display

Last time I looked at the USA's flag, the red and white stripes were horizontal, not vertical   

Cheers - Phil

[If this is too strong [one of my occasional slips] then Techno just delete it   ]

This



Or this



Fine by me.

But not this, as its ubiquitous and has lost its meaning





And then some people, because the signs lost its true meaning, they don't know what it means and so they think it will look cool to use it for advertising, and thinking it means what they think it means and that it would look cool to alter the hands facing... They make big advertisements with chumps basically telling people to P*** O**! Or, I can k**l you, if used in a historical context.





The above is captioned "Businessman giving victory, two fingers sign"

So, that would be copying Churchill, who used it as a sign of defiance and ultimate victory over a political and hostile enemy that we were currently engaged with at war, and were killing each other in the millions. That's real good advertising. Family friendly and wholesome. We will destroy the opposition businesses and conquer them unconditionally.

Two fingers "Peace" signs. I hate them!  

"Always look on the bright side of life"  

Quote from: Techno on 15 April 2016, 06:31:42 PM
Last time I looked at the USA's flag, the red and white stripes were horizontal, not vertical   

Cheers - Phil

Depends how hard the wind is blowing.

Man, you gotta go with the love.

Now.

Regarding the 'V' sign given by the archers above

Has anyone got the definitive answer.

WAS that the beginning of the 'insulting' gesture.....Because the French (?) used to remove those particular fingers of archers they captured, so the English archers used to wave those fingers at the enemy, to show that they could still fire an arrow.

Years ago I was told that, that was a stone cold solid fact....(No doubt about it squire !)
Since then, I've been told that this particular 'fact' is a pile of poo.

Which is right ?

Cheers - Phil

Pile of Poo indeed!

Having just read through the driver ones again, I'm reminded of the people who I like to cathartically refer to as The 40mph F***ers!  You know the ones: 50, 60 or national speed limit, they pootle along at 40; on into the 40 mph section, fine and dandy: we're observing the limit; then you hit the 30mph section and off they zoom... 

Doesn't matter what the road conditions; 40, 40, 40...

How the war was won: scissors cut paper.

 

 
Well found FK

I was expecting comments like "May you live to be as old as your jokes"; much relieved am I, yes.

FK - we wouldn't curse the world with that wish 

Do you have any friends? Just curious....

Quote from: FierceKitty on 16 April 2016, 02:09:31 AM
How the war was won: scissors cut paper.

Good one!    

[p.s. So, if its not the archers story, are we saying its a Churchill thing?]

It predates Churchill ... ish.

I've seen video of WWI soldiers giving a V sign.

Quote from: Westmarcher on 16 April 2016, 11:50:46 AM
Good one!    

[p.s. So, if its not the archers story, are we saying its a Churchill thing?]

It was a gesture at least as far back as 1901 - there's film footage of a man giving the V sign to a camera crew filming him when he clearly didn't want them to.

Truth is we don't know and probably never will.

The "archer thing" is almost certainly patriotic tosh.

Winnie may have used it but didn't invent it - he had to be told by his advisers to reverse his hand when he first started making the Victory sign as he appears to have been unaware it was rude if the palm faced inwards.

It MAY have originated as a vulgar reference to a woman's sex organs  - either the V of the pudenda or a pair of open legs - indicating the recipient of the gesture was not "a real man."

It MAY have been a local version of "the horns" indicating that the recipient was a cuckold.

Or it may be something completely other.