Will this work? The world holds it's breath!

Mollinary

No, it would seem.

While waiting for the Pendraken guns I have put an unpainted 6mm gun on a stand of my French (it's an HQ stand but just to get the scale). I'll try and get a picture of that up tonight so y'all can pass judgement.

All fixed now, it was just a glitch with the _ symbols in the image address.

Is it just the rifling, or did it really fire hexagonal rounds?

Chris
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Now Paul has finished the gun crews I can finish
basing up my Ww l artillery, including the 10 pdr mountain battery

i'll post some pictures once done if that any help.

Quote from: Chris Pringle on 01 December 2015, 07:41:54 PM
Is it just the rifling, or did it really fire hexagonal rounds?

Chris
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It is just the rifling, they fired the standard La Hitte System studded rounds. Incidentally, in 1859, this ammuntion for all 4pdrs had notoriously bad fuses, and often failed to explode. A clear illustration of this failing can be found in modern day Montebello, where I counted at least three of these four pounder studded rounds from 1859 which had been cemented sideways by the locals into thier house walls!

Mollinary

There it is. My, it does look dinky.

Quote from: mollinary on 01 December 2015, 08:04:16 PM
It is just the rifling, they fired the standard La Hitte System studded rounds. Incidentally, in 1859, this ammuntion for all 4pdrs had notoriously bad fuses, and often failed to explode. A clear illustration of this failing can be found in modern day Montebello, where I counted at least three of these four pounder studded rounds from 1859 which had been cemented sideways by the locals into thier house walls!

Mollinary

That's interesting Mollers, I thought they were using a percussion round in 1859, then changed to 5 or 6 setting (can't remember which) air burst, then down to 2 settings for 1870 (Imperial) then changed back again in late 1870/71 (republican) to percussion. Talking of rounds in the wall, do you remember the station at Skalitz  

Quote from: cameronian on 02 December 2015, 12:52:52 PM
Talking of rounds in the wall, do you remember the station at Skalitz  

Or the 'Maison de la dernière cartouche' in Bazeille near Sedan!

Cheers,
Rob

Quote from: cameronian on 02 December 2015, 12:52:52 PM
That's interesting Mollers, I thought they were using a percussion round in 1859, then changed to 5 or 6 setting (can't remember which) air burst, then down to 2 settings for 1870 (Imperial) then changed back again in late 1870/71 (republican) to percussion. Talking of rounds in the wall, do you remember the station at Skalitz  

Well, the Sainted Bruce in "1859" says, on p66, para 8 "The "4pdr" M1858 gun fired a 8.82lb (4kg) conical explosive shell, with a timed fuze that could be set for four burst points between 500 and 1200m.  This fuze was less than reliable, however, resulting in the projectile often acting as a solid shot".  Whatever fuze it was, timed or percussion, the point is it often didn't explode which allowed fhe citizens of
Montebello to use them as wall decorations!   Yes, I do indeed recall Skalitz station!

Mollinary

Ah was it four settings, I couldn't remember. Now why do I think they used a percussion fuze in the beginning, can't remember that either. The air burst shell was supposed to explode on impact assuming it hadn't already exploded in mid flight but apparently it usually didn't, functioning as you say like an expensive round shot. Grof reckoned that 30% of the Austrian common shell fired in 1866 failed to explode too.
Just thinking, did they dig the shells out of the wall, remove the explosive and then re-insert them, or did they go to bed every night wondering ... now or when ?

Rifled mountain cannon "Canon de montagne de 4 rayé modèle 1859". Caliber: 86 mm. Length: 0.82 m. Weight: 102 kg. Ammunition: 4 kg shell. Captured in Marrakech (Morocco) in 1912.

That's the one, same barrel as the photo in my post above. Re the shells in Montebello, I don't think they necessarily hit the buildings at all. I reckon they were all stuck up there later as decoration, as they are embedded sideways!  I presume this is to show off the studs and the shape of the shell.

Mollinary

Quote from: cameronian on 03 December 2015, 08:33:28 AM
Ah was it four settings, I couldn't remember. Now why do I think they used a percussion fuze in the beginning, can't remember that either. The air burst shell was supposed to explode on impact assuming it hadn't already exploded in mid flight but apparently it usually didn't, functioning as you say like an expensive round shot. Grof reckoned that 30% of the Austrian common shell fired in 1866 failed to explode too.
Just thinking, did they dig the shells out of the wall, remove the explosive and then re-insert them, or did they go to bed every night wondering ... now or when ?

Scary.

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*Only. In Italian.