SYW Honours of War using 10mm

Started by Leman, 18 November 2015, 08:35:40 AM

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Leman

I thought I would start a new thread for this as the rules are written for 28mm figures and the 10mm variant simply assumes a small scale version of this using 4 infantry figures on a tiny 15mm square base, which certainly doesn't suit my style of play using 1" squares and up yo 10 infantry on a base. Any comments or ideas relating to using 10mm would be much appreciated.
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Fenton

I would go with your line of thinking

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I'm going with three 40mm x 20mm bases for my AWI/Imagi-Nation forces and using the 15mm 'variant' re: distances. I did dabble with the idea of two 40mm x 20mm bases, but it didn't look right to me. For 'proper' SYW I will go with the latter in the future.

Aksu

18 November 2015, 10:28:20 AM #3 Last Edit: 18 November 2015, 10:29:58 AM by Aksu
Hullo,
I base my figs on 30 x 30 mm bases, and will go with either three or four bases (90 mm or 120 mm frontage) for Honours of War. I want loads of figs on the table :)
I will also base my arty and horse on 30 mm wide bases, and possibly make my own variant of QRS with distances based on the final unit width.
Cheers,
Aksu

Nosher

Really tempted by these due to the great Batreps that have been posted.

I note its available as a Kindle Book at half the price so will go that way. Two reasons. I'm running out of bookshelf space and secondly you have to design your own QRS and Army Rosters for most other Osprey rules anyway so their doesn't seem to be any point in buying it in hard copy other than its nice to leaf through a book.

The money I save (albeit hardly a bundle) I can put towards figures......
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Nosher, if you can find your way to the Honours of War website, the author has put links to downloads for QRS in all scales. I just don't know how to put such links in place.
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Leman

Thanks for that Aksu. Have now got myself registered on the site.
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Bill Braham

Leman

I'm going for 20mm square bases with 6 figures/base for formed infantry and 3 figures/base for jaeger, Croats etc. Cavalry 2 figures/20mm square base. Some of my foot regiments are only 4 bases strong so I may just add a cosmetic battalion gun to beef them up to 5 bases. So that would give a frontage of 100mm per battalion (30 figures). Cavalry units being 5 or 6 bases (=to 2 squadron frontage at full strength or a weak regiment at campaign strength, so 10 - 12 figures per unit). Field artillery I am basing on a 40mm square for a battery of 4/5 guns with limbers on a 20mm width/front

The best way of determining what will suit your style is by looking at what you already have and using the suggestion in the rules namely that the unit frontage for approximates to normal musket range and adjusting other distances with that in mind.

Leman

I have gone down that road Bill, so my base units have four 25mm frontage bases - giving 100mm frontage, which equates to the 15mm QRS. Played it that way last night and it gave a great game. We e even had a couple of 5 base Austrians as large units - didn't save the Austrians from the Prussian juggernaut this time though.
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Bill Braham

Leman

Saw your post about the first play through, good looking game. Time cast Buildings per chance. The beastly Prussians can be a bit of a steamroller, have you thought about trying it with reversed roles, Prussians on the defensive and Austrians in attack?

I also have some units, Prussians basically, that I was building up for Might & Reason so 50mm by 25mm which I can use as two bases per battalion and still maintain the 100mm frontage which will serve until I decide whether to re-base or not.

kustenjaeger

Greetings

I have the rules on order but flicked through a friend's after Warfare.

My 10mm French and Alied SYW are on 25mm bases (6 foot in 2 ranks; 3 horse in one rank; 3 light troops; 1 gun). And I have 4 bases per infantry and cavalry unit. I am aiming to use them this way for Honours of War.

Regards

Edward

Leman

Honours of War does not use casualty removal so as long as both armies are based similarly a frontage for a basic unit can be agreed. This is further helped by the rulebook giving a variety of frontages for different movement and ranges scales. I also base my 10mm figures on 25mm frontage bases in groups of four Prussians and four or five Austrians. This gives a standard frontage of 100mm for most of my infantry units. In Honours of War this equates to the 15mm scale QRS. All the QRSs are available as free downloads from the Honours of War website,
www.honoursofwar.com

It is my intention to represent large units as 5 bases and small units as three bases. There is a 10mm QRS option. The rulebook suggests infantry bases of 15mm square with two ranks of two figures, but I prefer my units to look a lot more meatier than that, which is why I have gone for the 15mm QRS. Incidentally, the HoW webpage and forum is well worth a look at. There are more scenarios there as well.
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old smokie

I feel another project coming on  :-bd

this will be my first foray into the SYW

@ Leon

any chance of doing some army packs for these rules.

Bill Braham

Quote from: old smokie on 29 November 2015, 04:51:13 PM
I feel another project coming on  :-bd

this will be my first foray into the SYW

@ Leon

any chance of doing some army packs for these rules.

Old Smokie

Depending on which basing convention you opt for (40mm, 25mm, 20mm or 15mm frontage mentioned above) the army packs already available from Pendraken would give you a pretty good start for a brigade. You might want to change out the 3lbers to something heavier, add limbers and maybe a couple more packs of cavalry and some higher command. Croats, Jager, Pandours and other such ruffians could be added once you have built one of more brigades. I am sure that you already know that Pendraken are pretty good about customising their army packs when contacted.

As you can see from the foregoing posts there are at least four different basing 'styles' and which can quite happily by accommodated by Honours of War choice of which might affect the exact numbers of figures required. Personally I would find the recommended HoW 10mm convention of bases on a 15mm base a bit too compact - but maybe that is because my stuff is already on 20mm bases? One of the key concepts in HoW is the ratio of battalion/unit frontage being equivalent to musket range. Keep that in mind and game play should be unaffected.