BkCIII, Which armies?

Started by Luddite, 01 October 2015, 10:40:02 PM

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Which of the BkCII armies will you definitely want to see in BkCIII (choose all that apply)?

American Army, Far East (12/41-8/45)
26 (57.8%)
American Army, Tunisia/Italy (11/42-5/45)
30 (66.7%)
American Army, North West Europe (6/44-5/45)
35 (77.8%)
American Airborne, Italy/North West Europe (7/43-5/45)
33 (73.3%)
Belgian Army, France & the Low Countries (5/40)
26 (57.8%)
British & Commonwealth Army, Norway (4/40-6/40)
27 (60%)
British & Commonwealth, France/Balkans (5/40-5/41)
31 (68.9%)
British & Commonwealth Army, Far East (12/41-8/45)
30 (66.7%)
British & Commonwealth Army, North Africa (9/40-5/43)
37 (82.2%)
British & Commonwealth Army, Italy (7/43-5/45)
35 (77.8%)
British & Commonwealth Army, NW Europe (6/44-5/45)
40 (88.9%)
British Airborne, North West Europe (6/44-5/45)
36 (80%)
Chinese Army, Far East (7/37-8/45)
21 (46.7%)
Dutch Army, France & the Low Countries (5/40)
22 (48.9%)
Spanish Army, Eastern Front (10/41-10/43)
18 (40%)
Finnish Army, Finland (11/39-3/40)
28 (62.2%)
Finnish Army, Eastern Front (6/41-9/44)
25 (55.6%)
French Army, France & the Low Countries (5/40-6/40)
32 (71.1%)
German Army, Poland/France/Balkans (9/39-5/41)
35 (77.8%)
German Army, Norway (4/40-6/40)
27 (60%)
German Fallschirmjaeger (4/40-5/41)
37 (82.2%)
German Afrika Korps, North Africa/Tunisia (3/41-5/43)
38 (84.4%)
German Army, Early Eastern Front (6/41-3/43)
38 (84.4%)
German Army, Mid Eastern Front (4/43-3/44)
38 (84.4%)
German Army, Italy (7/43-5/45)
36 (80%)
German Army, Late Eastern Front (4/44-5/45)
40 (88.9%)
German Army, North West Europe (6/44-5/45)
41 (91.1%)
Greek Army, Balkans (4/41)
23 (51.1%)
Hungarian Army, Balkans/Eastern Front (4/41-9/41)
21 (46.7%)
Hungarian Army, Eastern Front (6/42-5/45)
23 (51.1%)
Italian Army, North Africa/Tunisia/Italy (9/40-9/43)
34 (75.6%)
Italian Army, Balkans/Eastern Front (4/41-5/43)
30 (66.7%)
Yugoslav Army, Balkans (4/41)
19 (42.2%)
Japanese Army, Far East (7/37-8/45)
28 (62.2%)
Norwegian Army, Norway (4/40-6/40)
23 (51.1%)
Polish Army, Poland (9/39)
29 (64.4%)
Rumanian Army, Eastern Front (6/41-8/44)
21 (46.7%)
Russian Army, Far East/Poland/Finland (7/38-3/40)
32 (71.1%)
Russian Army, Early Eastern Front (6/41-3/43)
39 (86.7%)
Russian Army, Mid Eastern Front (4/43-3/44)
40 (88.9%)
Russian Army, Late Eastern Front/Far East (4/44-8/45)
40 (88.9%)
Slovak Army, Eastern Front (6/41-3/43)
17 (37.8%)
Spanish Nationalist Army, Spanish Civil War (7/36-4/39)
17 (37.8%)
Spanish Republican Army, Spanish Civil War (7/36-4/39)
16 (35.6%)

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Luddite

01 October 2015, 10:40:02 PM Last Edit: 01 October 2015, 10:46:43 PM by Luddite
Given the initial debates over possible army list changes, i thought it might be useful to run a poll over what armies we'd like to see in BkCIII.   :)

BkCII currently has the above army lists.

Which army lists will you definitely want to see in BkCIII?  

Please only select armies that you already have or will purchase.

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Ithoriel

01 October 2015, 10:46:19 PM #1
I have no idea what armies I WILL purchase so basically I'd want to see all of them so I have the choice but if that's not possible that's fine because I'm happy to stick with BKC II, if necessary, even though I'm a sucker for new rules.
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DougM

01 October 2015, 10:58:53 PM #2
Errr... it seems to be possible to select only one. In which case, can we have an option for 'all of the above' ?

Fenton

01 October 2015, 11:03:36 PM #3
All please
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02 October 2015, 12:11:30 AM #4
Bit of a glitch in the forum poll there, I've fixed it now so you can vote for as many as you like.

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02 October 2015, 12:26:17 AM #5
Sorry guys.  Living up to my name there... ;D
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fsn

02 October 2015, 06:51:35 AM #6
All of 'em bar the Spanish Civil War. That's just 'cos I got tired ticking the boxes.
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sediment

02 October 2015, 07:22:59 AM #7
Whether I buy the armies or use proxy troops, I'm likely to want to field at least parts of all of the armies listed.  I suspect heaviest use would be of Germans - any time/theatre, Brits & Commonwealth any time/theatre, USA late war, USSR late war, Italians North Africa, Japanese.

That's probably 80% of the lists right there.

Out of interest I almost never use the points, preferring to research and use historical orbats where possible.

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fsn

02 October 2015, 07:25:45 AM #8
Ah Sediment. A man after my own kidney.

I loves me a nice order of battle. In fact I am, as I have said before, a massive OOB fan.
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

02 October 2015, 08:13:27 AM #9
Moaning Andrew.

One or two of those are going to be hard to find to say the least.

Leon , if you wish to contact me back channel I've don most in more detail than we will need here.

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toxicpixie

02 October 2015, 09:19:24 AM #10
Even if they're not in the printed book can the extras remain on the Battlegroup Generator and also perhaps have a downloadable PDF with the properly stated list you can read as per the printed lists in the book? Would give a good reason for subb'ing to the BGG (extra lists!) as well ;)
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Orcs

02 October 2015, 02:09:57 PM #11
I think one of the plusses of the rules is the wide range of lists . I think they should all be included. Otherwise we will be into a case of suplements as other armies are realeased, or people will not buy the new rules because they do not have a list for the army theu want to use.

I appreciate its a lot of work redoing all the lists. I am happy to help with those I have some knowledge of.

IF some cannot be done I suggest they are kept in thier orriginal form in a seperate sectyion of "unmodified lists" with a brief description of how to convert them.

But like most ot the others making comments the accuracy of the points values or amounts you can use are fairly irrelevant. Its the stats I want them for and I will do my own scenario. 
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sane max

02 October 2015, 05:42:22 PM #12
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 02 October 2015, 02:09:57 PM
I think one of the plusses of the rules is the wide range of lists . I think they should all be included. Otherwise we will be into a case of suplements as other armies are realeased, or people will not buy the new rules because they do not have a list for the army theu want to use. 

yup, all of them or else you are going to have to come out with a sup sooner or later. and sups suck!
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paulr

02 October 2015, 06:17:29 PM #13
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 02 October 2015, 02:09:57 PM
I think one of the plusses of the rules is the wide range of lists . I think they should all be included. Otherwise we will be into a case of suplements as other armies are realeased, or people will not buy the new rules because they do not have a list for the army theu want to use.

I appreciate its a lot of work redoing all the lists. I am happy to help with those I have some knowledge of.

IF some cannot be done I suggest they are kept in thier orriginal form in a seperate sectyion of "unmodified lists" with a brief description of how to convert them.

But like most ot the others making comments the accuracy of the points values or amounts you can use are fairly irrelevant. Its the stats I want them for and I will do my own scenario. 

If the stats are the key would an option be to have a list of all the units with their stats and then only some of the more common army lists :-\
Might be a workable compromise between providing info, work required and size of rules

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02 October 2015, 06:24:22 PM #14
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