Phil. You sir are a rattlepatte!

Yup that works

The only insult need for Phil - WELSH. Wales - an example of a country where Cromwell's attitudes still hold sway.

IanS

Men of Harlech, stand ye steady.
It is not yet time for beddy.
Evans, put away your teddy....

Quote from: cameronian on 20 August 2015, 11:27:51 AM
Royalist, anything is better than Presbyterianism.

On its face, that's a puzzling statement when attached to your username  

Well I voted "King" because Oliver Cromwell banned Christmas, and was warty ... and the statue of Cromwell in Warrington in creepy and because Parliament usurped the bounds which had been set upon them by his Gracious Majesty and thus God.

Really, I think they were one as bad as the other, but I've always had a soft spot for Prince Rupert and his dog "Boy".

Quote from: FierceKitty on 20 August 2015, 11:43:53 AM
Evans, put away your teddy....

Why was Evans wearing a teddy? 

Quote from: fsn on 20 August 2015, 11:50:39 AM

Really, I think they were one as bad as the other, but I've always had a soft spot for Prince Rupert and his dog "Boy".

So ....... when they said Rupert took his 'boy' for frequent walks, he was actually only taking his dog for a walk?  Whew! That's a relief! 

Ask the Taffs on the site.

Parliament, the area of Shropshire I grew up in was (and still is) staunchly anti-Royalists after the Royalists burnt their churches three times!
In fact it was so radical that the 'Bishops Castle and Clun Clubmen' were the first in the country and backed NEITHER side after the parliamentary forces burned down the new church!!!

In fact, the two Moore brothers, one who became a huge bigwig in the parliament army was ransomed for £4000 which was more than Wupert got for Birmingham!

But who would pay ANYTHING for Birmingham 

IanS

ps - we are out of period - The war of 3 kingdoms and subsequent comonwealth are 1642 - 1660, dates for this sub-board start at 1680.......

Quote from: Subedai on 20 August 2015, 10:29:43 AM
A strange statement I know but most of the early Parliamentarian leaders were not against the king only his ministers.

Indeed, many believed that it was the Ministers and hangers-on that were feeding the King false information, and therefore Charles hadn't actually made any mistakes at all before and during the war. Also a nice handy way to politely avoid laying any blame at HRH's feet in the event of the Royalists winning the war.....

Regarding the apprentices, Colonel John Hampden's (MP) Regiment of Foote was made up of "butchers and dyers".

Quote from: Bodvoc on 20 August 2015, 09:11:25 AMInterestingly one of the boys I teach is the direct descendent of Col. John Hotham who was very active in the civil war in Yorkshire, he still lives in the same mansion with a portrait of John Hotham over the dining table!

Now that, is a corking bit of family history! 

Quote from: Westmarcher on 20 August 2015, 12:08:02 PM
Why was Evans wearing a teddy? 

So ....... when they said Rupert took his 'boy' for frequent walks, he was actually only taking his dog for a walk?  Whew! That's a relief! 

To avoid confusion, Rupert spelt his dog's name 'Boye'.

Quote from: Fenton on 20 August 2015, 11:38:37 AM
Phil. You sir are a rattlepatte!

Nicest thing anyone's said to me today. 

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Subedai on 20 August 2015, 02:28:33 PM
To avoid confusion, Rupert spelt his dog's name 'Boye'.

Probably also spelled "sex" with one "f".

I cannot understand why anybody would side with the moneygrabbing merchant bankers parliament!
I still believe that parliament should be dissolved...preferably by a company of Gurkhas and a tank.   

Quote from: fsn on 20 August 2015, 04:15:37 PM
Probably also spelled "sex" with one "f".

Apparently, Rupert alfo had a fimian friend af well af a canine one.


WTS. This is getting complicated. So, was a saker actually a faker like a Quaker in the ACW? 


Footnote: Quakers were pacifists who avoided war and violence. The term Quaker gun, is kind of an oxymoron and is used to describe logs, stovepipes and other devices that were painted to look like cannons to deceive the enemy into thinking an army had more artillery than it really did.

Quote from: cameronian on 20 August 2015, 11:27:51 AM
Royalist, anything is better than Presbyterianism.

Strange coming from someone with that screen name   Long live the Republic!

Parliament of course. 'A hereditary ruler is as absurd an idea as a hereditary mathematician. '

As for the religious side, very few of the parliamentarians were puritans but with the rise of Cromwell, they found themselves in positions of influence.

"Babel's garments we've rejected,
And our fellowship is o'er,
Babylon is fallen to rise no more."

Parliament to save us from tyranny!

I find it incredible, in this day of information technology, that so many commoners unwashed non-wargaming ...er...folk have a vague perception of the ECW as: parliament standing up for 'the people' against 'fox hunting toffs with feathers in their hats'.    
So sad that it was the other way around but the bad guys won.      

In fairness, it's a pretty confusing war if you try to get any ideological stencil to fit the outlines.