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Started by fsn, 12 April 2015, 07:03:14 AM

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fsn

Genuine questions that I'd hope some of you clever sons of multiple fathers can answer:

* Any suggestions for WWII Japanese softskins?
* Any suggestions for 10mm nude figures? I want them for conversion to superheroes. My attempts with dollies has led to ill formed limbs.
* What's the difference between acrylics for plastics and acrylics for metals? If you undercoat then both are binding to the same surface.
* I'm struggling with three tone camouflage. It seems too stark to me. How do you get a more nuanced effect?
* Someone posted a suggestion for Pendraken figures that can be used for Byzantines, but I can't find it. Could someone point me at it, or re-make the suggestion?


Any help appreciated.   
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Leman

Have to admit to ignorance on all five of those points.
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FierceKitty

Quote from: fsn on 12 April 2015, 07:03:14 AM
Genuine questions that I'd hope some of you clever sons of multiple fathers can answer:

* Any suggestions for WWII Japanese softskins?
* Any suggestions for 10mm nude figures? I want them for conversion to superheroes. My attempts with dollies has led to ill formed limbs.
* What's the difference between acrylics for plastics and acrylics for metals? If you undercoat then both are binding to the same surface.
* I'm struggling with three tone camouflage. It seems too stark to me. How do you get a more nuanced effect?
* Someone posted a suggestion for Pendraken figures that can be used for Byzantines, but I can't find it. Could someone point me at it, or re-make the suggestion?


Any help appreciated.   

I was probably the poster. I have an 11th century east Roman force; it's not all Pendraken, but contains plenty.

Some of the late Roman stuff made its way into my Byzantine army (AD 2 Sarmatian cataphracts with added shields copied and printed onto cardboard, ARL 22 late Roman horse archers). There's no shortage of nondescript LI bowmen in tunics with bare heads; AS 2 Saxons will do as Varangians; EMM 6 staff slingers are usable. Norman knights and Turkic horse archers are no problem. I made up some Alan HC from Copplestone fantasy stuff, and used Magister Militum skutatoi with Irregular Miniatures late imperial Roman armoured auxiliary archers for the heavy infantry.
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p.s. One father was too many, thank you very much.
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fsn

Thank you for that.

It was the cataphracts that were troubling me.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
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FierceKitty

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fsn

You've obviously not seen my entries in the painting competition.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Fenton

I don't think there is any difference between acrylics for metals and plastics. You can buy some primers that are especially for plastics but this is more for 1/72 soft plastics and you still need to wash them before using it
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

petercooman

For your camouflage, have you tried washing the piece with a light brown, to blend in the colours?

fsn

Quote from: Fenton on 12 April 2015, 09:23:43 AM
I don't think there is any difference between acrylics for metals and plastics. You can buy some primers that are especially for plastics but this is more for 1/72 soft plastics and you still need to wash them before using it
That's what I thought. I've always been put off buying "for plastic" paints, but wondered if there were any long term effects.


Quote from: petercooman on 12 April 2015, 09:32:07 AM
For your camouflage, have you tried washing the piece with a light brown, to blend in the colours?
Yes, and dry brushing. It still seems a little stark.

Would using thinner washes work?


Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Fenton

Have a look here

http://www3.telus.net/Ritterkrieg/

The 6mm camo guide he does is good and I am sure it would work in 10mm

A better option might be to wait for Dazza to appear  and ask or send him a pm asking for help as his stuff is excellent
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Fenton

Another option for camo and it kinda works is to drybrush the tank in the original base colour used . It will fade the colours a bit for you
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

fsn

Ah! It's all possibly a bit more possible now!

I have some Italian tanks to paint, and have considered chickening put and painting them overall green-grey. I shall now try a three colour scheme and I shall let you see how I get on.

Thanks chaps.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Fenton

If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

fsn

... ooh ... and does anyone have any suggestions for post war Arab insurgents?  :D
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

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Subedai

# For Japanese softskins you could use captured British stuff from Singapore as they captured shedloads.
# I had the same problem with the three tone camo. Try using a darker colours like ochre instead of a yellow and then give the whole thing a thin wash of the darkest brown you have. It might take a couple of washes but it does bring all the camo colours together.
# Nudes. If memory serves, some of Ancient Brits figures are naked. You might have to deal with the mad hair though.


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fsn

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Hertsblue

Quote from: Fenton on 12 April 2015, 09:23:43 AM
I don't think there is any difference between acrylics for metals and plastics. You can buy some primers that are especially for plastics but this is more for 1/72 soft plastics and you still need to wash them before using it

I've always found that the Tamiya plastic acrylics don't take to acrylic undercoat as well as the normal stuff. More importantly, the warning labels that Hobbycraft put on them always gives me pause for thought.
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Orcs

Quote from: fsn on 12 April 2015, 07:03:14 AM
Genuine questions that I'd hope some of you clever sons of multiple fathers can answer:

* Any suggestions for WWII Japanese softskins?
* Any suggestions for 10mm nude figures? I want them for conversion to superheroes. My attempts with dollies has led to ill formed limbs.
* What's the difference between acrylics for plastics and acrylics for metals? If you undercoat then both are binding to the same surface.
* I'm struggling with three tone camouflage. It seems too stark to me. How do you get a more nuanced effect?
* Someone posted a suggestion for Pendraken figures that can be used for Byzantines, but I can't find it. Could someone point me at it, or re-make the suggestion?


Any help appreciated.   


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First one tried his best.
Adoptive father and family were brilliant

Jap Softskins

Look for early softskins- some of the Russian ones don't look too out of place in 10mm - they have the same general shape

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt/japanese-wwii-motor-vehicles-trucks.html

The OTHER MANUFACTURER you bought the T35's from, does a Jap truck.  As your a heretic already you might as well get some from them, as you are going to burn anyway  :)


Camo
I dry brushed three tone camo on my Polish tanks.  I laminated a sheet of A4 paper, cit it into strips and then cust out tiny slits and holes. held them close to the tank and sprayed through it - fiddly but it worked.

I have seen excellebt results using either layer upon layer of very very light drybrushing, and also using very thinned down paint

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