ACW basing for black powder.

Started by getagrip, 05 April 2015, 05:25:24 PM

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Westmarcher

05 April 2015, 11:19:50 PM #15 Last Edit: 05 April 2015, 11:22:09 PM by Westmarcher
Maybe I've missed this but no-one seems to have pointed out that you can have large, standard, small and tiny units in Black Powder  So have a think about how many bases you are going to have per unit.

Personally (after a few re-basing episodes), I find square bases are the best (I use 25mm x 25mm - but suit yourself). I use 4 bases per standard unit. This means I can form line (4 x 1), column (2 x 2) and march column (1 x 4). Although I made some movement trays for line and march column (if you use square bases, they are the same dimensions), I hardly use them, finding that moving 4 bases per unit is no bother and does not have such a  significant effect on the speed of play as some people may think. As for the amount of figures on each base I say do whatever floats your boat.  :)  
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

Womble67

I normally use 24 figures 3 x 40mm x 20mm for a standard unit. Tiny unit 8 figures 1 x 40mm x 20mm. Small unit 16 figures 2 x 40mm 20mm.
for a large unit I use 8 figures 2 x 20mm x 20mm plus the standard unit.

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Whereas I use the same frontage, but put less figures on the base! ;D
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getagrip

Thanks guys.   I've ordered the rules so I guess I'll have to decide when I read them.

Seems to be a lot of variation though.  :-\
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That's because the writer wanted people to use their own figures and initiative...
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getagrip

Quote from: mad lemmey on 06 April 2015, 08:26:21 AM
That's because the writer wanted people to use their own figures and initiative...
Honest...

;D

I'm okay with the principle but as I'm new to the period it makes things a little tricky.

I also want to avoid rebasing if possible.  :-\
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That's why we've all had to agree base sizes with clubmates first, and why I've ended up with many pairs of armies!
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Westmarcher

Quote from: getagrip on 06 April 2015, 07:50:17 AM
I've ordered the rules so I guess I'll have to decide when I read them.

Excellent plan.

Quote from: getagrip on 06 April 2015, 08:31:03 AM
I also want to avoid rebasing if possible.

I used to have oblong bases but found them unsatisfactory for march column, small and tiny units ......
My advice is go for square. Covers all formations. In my experience, I find that moving 4 square base units are just as quick as moving 3 oblong base units on the table top because fingers can grasp 2 bases at a time.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

getagrip

Ta  ;)

What do the rules actually say about basing?
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Quote from: getagrip on 06 April 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Ta  ;)

What do the rules actually say about basing?
BP recommends 40 by 40 with 4 infantry models 2 deep, and for cavalry 50 by 50 for 2 models. They do state though that they use other sizes as well and it makes no difference to the rules.

Gareth, I do not have the answer only you can decide, but here are some things to consider:

You are currently planning to use 10mm models with a set of rules designed for 28 or 15mm models.

This means a number of decisions:
Do you use the rules as they stand and use more figures to a base for that massed unit look, but use the 28/15 distances and ranges as they stand? Lots of painting.

Do you use the same amount of figures to a base but play on a smaller area, possibly halving the 28/15 distances and ranges? Only worh it if you really are restricted with table space.

Do you go for the same size tables but halving the 28/15 distances and ranges, to allow up to double the number of units and a bigger battle? This option can often make the chosen rules become very tedious as you will be doing roughly twice the amount of processing for each turn compared to the size of game the rules were designed for.

Cheers, Rob  :)







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I think people using 6mm go for 60x30 basing
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Oh, we also tend to use 1cm = 1" in 10mm, it helps a huge amount!
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getagrip

Hmm, still no clue.  :-\

Might decide to go with what looks good.

Thanks gents.
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