ACW skirmish rules

Started by getagrip, 22 February 2015, 12:48:46 PM

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getagrip

Following the Dark Lord's announcement about BKC my WWII project is now officially on hold.  However, whilst playing last Saturday my gaming buddy expressed an interest in starting ACW in a small way to begin and then possibly moving towards large scale battles.

So, here are my questions:

1)  Is there a simple ACW ruleset which would allow good skirmish games with the opportunity to scale it up?

2)  What forces would I need for a decent scrap?

3)  Would the Pendraken army packs fit the bill; their contents are a bit vague (120 mixed foot).

Thanks in advance.
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Fenton

Why not try something like Alter of Freedom

Although it is certainly not skirmish..You could just mount some figures on bases then work up to filling them out before finishing the basing..means you will get some big games in as well

As I had certainly forgotten about them http://realtimewargames.webplus.net/stonewall.html  could do the same thing
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Bodvoc

If you can still get them, 'Brother Against Brother' was a great set of rules. Although aimed at 28mm skirmish ACW I am sure they would scale down nicely to 10mm. Tends to use units of 10 men/figures singly based but you could use circular bases with 2,3 or 4 figures a base?
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Leman

Smooth and Rifled, produced by Dadi and Piombo, of Impetus fame, are a set of skirmish/small action rules, downloadable from both Dadi and Piombo and Wargame Vault. The ACW supplement is a free download. An infantry unit can be between 7 and 24 figures.
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getagrip

Aaaaghhhh!  ;D

Never a simple answer :)

Thanks guys, will look at them. Anyone got suggestions for starter armies?
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Fenton

Isnt there an ACW version of Sharpe Practice by TFL?
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getagrip

Quote from: Fenton on 22 February 2015, 01:43:38 PM
Isnt there an ACW version of Sharpe Practice by TFL?

Just looked, there is.

ARe TFL rules any good; they seem to get a lot of flack on here? :-\
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Quote from: getagrip on 22 February 2015, 01:46:00 PM

ARe TFL rules any good; they seem to get a lot of flack on here? :-\

Really?  I hadn't noticed.   :-\. They seem good to me, and Sharp Practice works very well at the large-ish skirmish level.

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Fenton

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CPTHilts

Have you tried this? It's a company based game. But if you have 'Songs of drums and shakos' , you could play it as a skirmish game. http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?products_id=28

getagrip

Cheers all:

Steve: yeah, looked at that one, maybe a goer.

Thanks CPT, will have a look.

Mollinary; I'm new to this so what would large-ish look like in terms of units / bases / minis?
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getagrip

Quote from: Leman on 22 February 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Forty Dead Men on Wargame Vault.

Just looked at that, might be a goer; cheap as chips too ;)

Thanks
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mollinary

Quote from: getagrip on 22 February 2015, 04:49:13 PM


Mollinary; I'm new to this so what would large-ish look like in terms of units / bases / minis?

Between 30-120 figures a side. Basing very much, up to you. If you multi-base you'll need to find some way of tracking casualties. But have a look on the TFL Forum or the yahoo group and ask your questions there, or I think the rules are available as a pdf for £8 from the TFL web store.

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getagrip

Quote from: mollinary on 22 February 2015, 06:08:46 PM
Between 30-120 figures a side. Basing very much, up to you. If you multi-base you'll need to find some way of tracking casualties. But have a look on the TFL Forum or the yahoo group and ask your questions there, or I think the rules are available as a pdf for £8 from the TFL web store.

Cheers,

Mollinary

Thanks ;)

The Pendraken packs would be a good starting point for that then unless someone has a better suggestion for starting forces? 
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ronan

Quote from: CPTHilts on 22 February 2015, 04:43:31 PM
Have you tried this? It's a company based game. But if you have 'Songs of drums and shakos' , you could play it as a skirmish game. http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?products_id=28

I also wanted to add this. SBH games are great.


Then Drums and Shakos Large battle can be use to "scale up" for the ACW ( almost the same engine as 61-65 )
( I had some solo games : http://2d6.fr/?p=1532 for example )

getagrip

Quote from: ronan on 22 February 2015, 06:24:26 PM
I also wanted to add this. SBH games are great.


Then Drums and Shakos Large battle can be use to "scale up" for the ACW ( almost the same engine as 61-65 )
( I had some solo games : http://2d6.fr/?p=1532 for example )

Thanks Ronan, my French not being up to it but the pictures tell a thousand words :)

Lovely looking battles.

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petercooman

I know i mention this family of rules a lot, but USE ME ACW is skirmish:

http://15mmcouk.blogspot.co.uk/p/15mmcouk-digital-downloads.html

It's however the only one that's not available as a little book, only as a pdf download. But at 5$ , you can't complain, can you?


getagrip

Quote from: petercooman on 22 February 2015, 07:41:29 PM

It's however the only one that's not available as a little book, only as a pdf download. But at 5$ , you can't complain, can you?



True ;)

Will it handle skirmish and larger scale?
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Quote from: Bodvoc on 22 February 2015, 12:58:51 PM
If you can still get them, 'Brother Against Brother' was a great set of rules. Although aimed at 28mm skirmish ACW I am sure they would scale down nicely to 10mm. Tends to use units of 10 men/figures singly based but you could use circular bases with 2,3 or 4 figures a base?

Seconded - have enjoyed many games of Brother Against Brother over the years  :)