People who engage in relentless self-promotion to push their own ruleset as if it were the best thing since sliced bread was first served up in the Holy Grail, rather than just something modestly innovative built while standing on the shoulders of giants, and which is only ever going to be of interest to a fraction of the people they spam repeatedly because most wargamers are already perfectly happily playing one of the many other excellent games out there ... 

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
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Quote from: Hertsblue on 11 February 2015, 11:13:17 AM
What can you play with a diorama, Leman? (Yes, yes, I know. I've set off a whole string of ever less probable puns. )

I hate the way that an interesting or informative thread in this forum seemingly degenerates into a bunch of bad puns, or messages that only relate to some forum in-joke.

Cheers, Martyn
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Quote from: Raider4 on 11 February 2015, 05:08:47 PM
I hate the way that an interesting or informative thread in this forum seemingly degenerates into a bunch of bad puns, or messages that only relate to some forum in-joke.

Cheers, Martyn
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Yeah, me too     

We have no in jokes... Just really bad out jokes.
Puns yes.

My new pet hate: Serious competition Wargamers who want a ranking position above all else!
Especially when last year I was tenth in a comp and this year I was 57th!

QuoteI hate the way that an interesting or informative thread in this forum seemingly degenerates into a bunch of bad puns, or messages that only relate to some forum in-joke.

This generally happens after the serious replies have come in and seems common to many forums, at least this one doesn't degenerate into personal abuse.

Quote from: DanJ on 12 February 2015, 09:42:22 AM
This generally happens after the serious replies have come in and seems common to many forums, at least this one doesn't degenerate into personal abuse.

Hear hear

This has to be the most polite, most respectful and most welcoming forum I've ever posted on

Quote from: DanJ on 12 February 2015, 09:42:22 AM
This generally happens after the serious replies have come in and seems common to many forums, at least this one doesn't degenerate into personal abuse.

It also keeps the occasional thread active so that, as the silliness peters out, more useful information gets posted.

For me it keeps the forum vibrant, provides the glue that keeps the forum cohesive, makes it harder for people to be pompous and provides an area that allows those with less knowledge of the subject to participate.

I'm on a couple of invite only e-groups where posts not entirely on-topic are strongly discouraged and they are largely places of sepulchral silence, punctuated by moments when one of the Olympians makes some sententious pronouncement which either drops into the void without a ripple or attracts other "experts" with contrary views and flame wars that could melt steel ensue. All but the most cautious newbies find themselves either drowned in more information than could possibly be useful or treated as ignorant peasants beneath contempt. I'd take the Pendraken forum and it's occasional lunacy over both of them.

Providing it isn't used as a vehicle to put people down I don't see much problem with it.

Sorry if my own flippant response annoyed anyone - I was only trying to fit in! Here's a serious one:

1. Multiplayer games that use initiative systems such as cards, so that only one player is active at a time, meaning I only get a fraction of the game and spend the great majority of the evening doing nothing.

2. Frontal assaults where there are very few tactical options, and therefore no interesting decisions to make.

3. Anything pre-Napoleon - essentially it's linear warfare, relatively limited tactical options, relatively few interesting decisions to make.

4. Naval games with no terrain and little or no command and control - dull dicefests.

5. Tournament games.

6. Games with such clever mechanisms for bidding for initiative (or whatever) that they are more about the mechanisms than they are about the tactics.

I could probably go on, but that's aired enough prejudices for today. I should just add that I don't mean to belittle anyone else's fun - it's all about personal preference, and if others love the games I hate, that's fine, I don't have to play them.

Chris

Quote from: Chris Pringle on 12 February 2015, 10:57:46 AM


5. Tournament games.

Amen to that!

Quite right, Martyn!  I would never dream of getting involved in such shenanigans.    
Sometimes threads go off the rails big time (but, as DanJ says, usually when the serious points are over. And, if not, don't be afraid to steer us back on track if its something you want the forum to consider or contact one of the forum members if you have a specific question to ask - everyone is approachable).

Very nicely put, DanJ, Getagrip and Ithoriel 
..... perhaps its just our polite way of saying, "bohhrringg, getting too serious now, nuff said, time for fun!"  

And, Chris, I would say you've found your niche here and also successfully steered us back on track. 

"Laugh and the world laughs with you." Ella Wheeler Wilcox.  "You can't be serious." John McEnroe (although maybe I don't quite get that one).

Quote from: Westmarcher on 12 February 2015, 11:28:30 AM
Quite right, Martyn!  I would never dream of getting involved in such shenanigans.    
Sometimes threads go off the rails big time (but, as DanJ says, usually when the serious points are over. And, if not, don't be afraid to steer us back on track if its something you want the forum to consider or contact one of the forum members if you have a specific question to ask - everyone is approachable).

Very nicely put, DanJ, Getagrip and Ithoriel  
..... perhaps its just our polite way of saying, "bohhrringg, getting too serious now, nuff said, time for fun!"  

And, Chris, I would say you've found your niche here and also successfully steered us back on track.  

"Laugh and the world laughs with you." Ella Wheeler Wilcox.  "You can't be serious." John McEnroe (although maybe I don't quite get that one).

I would also agree with all this.

Cheers, Westmarcher!

Chris

I dont like 28mm horse and musket games where people try and do something like Austerlitz on a 6x4 using the basic unit of a regiment and the units line up 12 inches apart

Amazing the notions some people get about most of history!

Quote from: Ithoriel on 12 February 2015, 10:54:22 AM
It also keeps the occasional thread active so that, as the silliness peters out, more useful information gets posted.
For me it keeps the forum vibrant, provides the glue that keeps the forum cohesive, makes it harder for people to be pompous and provides an area that allows those with less knowledge of the subject to participate.
I'm on a couple of invite only e-groups where posts not entirely on-topic are strongly discouraged and they are largely places of sepulchral silence, punctuated by moments when one of the Olympians makes some sententious pronouncement which either drops into the void without a ripple or attracts other "experts" with contrary views and flame wars that could melt steel ensue. All but the most cautious newbies find themselves either drowned in more information than could possibly be useful or treated as ignorant peasants beneath contempt. I'd take the Pendraken forum and it's occasional lunacy over both of them.
Providing it isn't used as a vehicle to put people down I don't see much problem with it.

I think that says it all ! 

Cheers - Phil