Quote from: petercooman on 06 December 2014, 11:10:58 PM
So i just finished cutting and pasting the heroes of normandie demo game (free download on their website)

If i like it my wallet will be angry at you Ithoriel!!

I can live with that

Hope you enjoy it.

Where's the Demo?  Can't find it on their site

Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 December 2014, 12:14:05 AM
Where's the Demo?  Can't find it on their site

You have to make an account and log in, then go to downloads:

http://www.devil-pig-games.com/en/downloads/

On the bottom there is a download named "HoN Free Demo"

It looks allright with some cut and paste action

The free demo is very similar to the first scenario in the full game. Fewer cards available, production values not as high, "lite" rules but it gives a decent flavour of the basic game.

Trying it out as we speak 

Quote from: petercooman on 07 December 2014, 12:49:57 AM
Trying it out as we speak 

Let us know what you think, I might give this a go if I get time.

Not to bad, just played it a few minutes ago with my son.

Plays fluently, but some shady zones where you have to make up your own rules (in the demo version of the rules, don't know how the full rules are). But combat mechanics are outlined very nice.

Only downside i think is that it is based on a single die roll mostly. One good roll and you can kill an enemy unit. Maybe i'm just used to playing BKC II, where infantry have multiple hits. Seeing a one man leader counter shooting 3 men hiding in bushes on a single roll was akward  , i can see the hollywood style combat Ithoriel was talking about more clearly now 

I can however imagine that this game adds aot of depth when you add vehicles and anti tank weapons. In the demo you can just shoot everything at everything, so it misses a bit of "organising". You can put any unit anywhere and still have a chance so to speak.

Is my feeling true? Does it get much better with vehicles/tanks involved?

Not just with tanks and guns but even with a few more infantry types, special equipment (grenades, panzerfausts, bangalore torpedoes and the like) and/or terrain pieces. The wider range of cards makes a difference too.

It does encourage use of the terrain to reduce casualties. Much of the terrain prevents direct fire so standing on one side of a piece of bocage prevents fire from the other for example. Beware forces with access to "Grenade" counters Troops hidden in hedgerows are much harder to hit than troops in the open so in our games there is much creeping through the undergrowth! Range reduces the chance to hit too, important in the bigger maps introduced as you progress through the scenarios in the full game.

I'd assume that one man "killing" a squad of several represents putting enough fire on their location to have them hit the dirt and not stick their heads up for the rest of the game - which to be fair probably represents only a matter of minutes. Some may be dead or injured, the rest merely persuaded of the merits of health over heroism Not to mention that single leader has a range of 4 with his SMG. Cut him down before he gets that close ... if you can.

Since initiative tokens are dependent on the command stars you have and since you rarely have enough tokens, deciding who to activate and when becomes crucial. Leaders are very effective in combat but get them killed and your force either loses effectiveness or, worse still, flees the field!

The rules are the weakest point in my opinion. French rules translated by someone who has a good command of the languages but no knowledge of matters military, I suspect. Never found a situation we couldn't resolve with a few seconds thought.

You'll have gathered I'm a fan, I realise that they will not be everyone's cup of tea however.

Well, since my son likes them, i'll probably buy them, since it's a great opportunity to draw him away from computer games.

The small demo map is very limited so i can't say the modifiers for shooting past 7 squares haven't come up. (it's only 9 squares long)

There are grenades in the demo game, but it's not really clear who has them so i havent used them yet.

Threesome with Japanese twins 

my wife was diplomatic with her reply and i should recover from my injuries before xmas so ended up ordering more LoA

She probably just wanted to be involved.

Quote from: Redstef on 08 December 2014, 08:23:30 AM
Threesome with Japanese twins 

my wife was diplomatic with her reply and i should recover from my injuries before xmas so ended up ordering more LoA

Would love to see your face if she arranged it - with male twins !!!!!

 

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 08 December 2014, 12:06:33 PM
Would love to see your face if she arranged it - with male twins !!!!!

Would asking for a [deleted... Very bad taste, even for me]

Yes, I think that is out of the question.

Anyhoo. What's worrying me is what to get her? I mean, its only one present I've got to get ...... but why is it sooooo difficult!