While talking with Dave at Colours I asked if it was possibe to produce figures for the Korean war. If there is enough interest then Dave would consider it. So who's in?

Requests for Korean troops (and Ming Chinese) have been going around for months already. Nobody seems to be interested.

Aren't these two different things? "the Korean war" to me means the 1950's conflict, whereas the 1590's conflict is the Imjin War.

I've previously stated my personal interest in doing figures for the 1590s, but as FierceKitty says the general interest seems to be pretty thin on the ground. Not that that would stop me, but as I said in another thread I'll not be trying anything until the Killer Katanas supliment covering the Imjin War comes out as it as a section on the dress of Choson and Ming armies.

Good to meet you at Colours.  You mentioned how a lot of the codes we currently have would fit for Korea as well, and that we'd only need a limited amount of new sculpts?  Does anybody fancy knocking up a list of what would be required?

Count me in for 1950s Korean War.

I dont think it would need that many new figures as you could use lots of stuff from the American and British WW11 range.

Some  South Korean types - in US kit but  perhaps  field caps (like US Marine types)  NOT helmets - as done by at least one plastic model maker in 20mm - would be very useful.  Lots of generic uses outside Korea.

For US in Korea existing WW2 figures are fine, you would just need to add:
3.5 M20 bazooka teams
57mm M18 recoilless rifle teams (ideal for many modern ranges)
75mm M20 recoilless rifle teams (used in WW2 at the end)
M45 Pershing
M39 Hellcat Utility (used i n WW2 anyway)
155mm M41 SP howitzer (optional as would be off table)

For the Brits it is very much as per WW2, although they did get some 3.5" M20 bazookas.
Centurion Mk.III

Its the bad guys you'd need lots of new moulds for:
North Korean infantry with rifles, carbines and SMG, LMG, MMG, PTRD41, 60mm Type 31 mortars, 14.5mm AAHMG.
They use 45mm M42 ATG, 120mm M43 mortars, 82mm M37 mortars, 76mm M42 field guns, Su-76, 122mm M38 howitzers, 100mm M44 ATG, Ba-64, T-34/85, 37mm M39 AA which are all existing WW2 kit.

Chinese infantry with rifles, SMG, LMG, MMG, 60mm mortars, PTRD41, A/T pole charge, 3.5" bazooka copies, 57mm M18 RCL copies, 12.7mm AAHMG, engineers, scouts with SMG on ponies.

WW2 kit in use would be 76mm M27 infantry guns, 37mm M3A1 ATG, Japanese 37mm and 47mm ATG, 70mm infantry guns, 45mm M42, 120mm M43 mortars, 82mm mortars, 122mm 38 howitzers, all Japanese WW2 howitzers 75-150mm, 85mm D44 ATG, 37mm M39 AA, BM-8-36 katyusha, T-34/85, Is-2m
Although I'm not sure the ex-Japanese kit left China.

Mark

Quote from: sultanbev on 23 September 2010, 07:20:36 PM
For US in Korea existing WW2 figures are fine, you would just need to add:
3.5 M20 bazooka teams
57mm M18 recoilless rifle teams (ideal for many modern ranges)
75mm M20 recoilless rifle teams (used in WW2 at the end)
M45 Pershing
M39 Hellcat Utility (used i n WW2 anyway)
155mm M41 SP howitzer (optional as would be off table)

For the Brits it is very much as per WW2, although they did get some 3.5" M20 bazookas.
Centurion Mk.III

Its the bad guys you'd need lots of new moulds for:
North Korean infantry with rifles, carbines and SMG, LMG, MMG, PTRD41, 60mm Type 31 mortars, 14.5mm AAHMG.
They use 45mm M42 ATG, 120mm M43 mortars, 82mm M37 mortars, 76mm M42 field guns, Su-76, 122mm M38 howitzers, 100mm M44 ATG, Ba-64, T-34/85, 37mm M39 AA which are all existing WW2 kit.

Chinese infantry with rifles, SMG, LMG, MMG, 60mm mortars, PTRD41, A/T pole charge, 3.5" bazooka copies, 57mm M18 RCL copies, 12.7mm AAHMG, engineers, scouts with SMG on ponies.

WW2 kit in use would be 76mm M27 infantry guns, 37mm M3A1 ATG, Japanese 37mm and 47mm ATG, 70mm infantry guns, 45mm M42, 120mm M43 mortars, 82mm mortars, 122mm 38 howitzers, all Japanese WW2 howitzers 75-150mm, 85mm D44 ATG, 37mm M39 AA, BM-8-36 katyusha, T-34/85, Is-2m
Although I'm not sure the ex-Japanese kit left China.

Mark

Cheers for all the info Mark, that's really helpful.  I'll print off that list and have a chat with Dave when we start planning for next year.

Quote from: sultanbev on 23 September 2010, 07:20:36 PM
For US in Korea existing WW2 figures are fine, you would just need to add:
3.5 M20 bazooka teams
57mm M18 recoilless rifle teams (ideal for many modern ranges)
75mm M20 recoilless rifle teams (used in WW2 at the end)
M45 Pershing
M39 Hellcat Utility (used i n WW2 anyway)
155mm M41 SP howitzer (optional as would be off table)

M45 Pershing?

For the US in Korea we'll need M4A3E8 Sherman, M24 Chaffee (I think this is being worked on), M26 Pershing and M46 Patton.

Quote from: sultanbev on 23 September 2010, 07:20:36 PM
For the Brits it is very much as per WW2, although they did get some 3.5" M20 bazookas.
Centurion Mk.III

Oh you're not kidding. We so badly need Centurions for any post war gaming. Mk.III for Korea, 20-pdr version for Vietnam (both with & without side-skirts) and a 105mm version for pretty much anything else.

Edit: Need a Comet as well. Can't see this in the current WW2 range.

Please, please, pretty please can we have a Centurion. And a T-54. And an M48A3 (for Vietnam). And a PT-76 (Vietnam again)

Sorry, I'm rambling. And going off-topic.

Cheers, Martyn

Cheers for the extra info Martyn.  I think a Centurion is in the works as well, but it's the MkV if I remember right.

Quote from: Leon on 24 September 2010, 01:11:31 AM
Cheers for the extra info Martyn.  I think a Centurion is in the works as well, but it's the MkV if I remember right.

Two turret versions (20pdr and the venerable 105mm) and the skirts cast as a seperate parts would square a lot of gaming circles. 

Put me down for anything Chinese


Paul
Brisbane/QLD/Oz

Leon - Mk 5 Cent is functionally identiocal to the Mk III (note pedantically correct designation). Changes were to remove the 2" bomb thower, which was internal, and switch the MG from Besa to browning. Other than that are you doing the "A" barrel, no fume extraactor, or "b" with it.

In 10mm I suspect that you could get away with 1 hull and 3 turrets to cover visually the whole British/Europian usage. Turrets would be : Smooth barrel, extrator barrel for 20pdr, and 105 barrel -may be with thermal sleve.

ianS

Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 September 2010, 09:09:58 AM
Leon - Mk 5 Cent is functionally identiocal to the Mk III (note pedantically correct designation). Changes were to remove the 2" bomb thower, which was internal, and switch the MG from Besa to browning. Other than that are you doing the "A" barrel, no fume extraactor, or "b" with it.

In 10mm I suspect that you could get away with 1 hull and 3 turrets to cover visually the whole British/Europian usage. Turrets would be : Smooth barrel, extrator barrel for 20pdr, and 105 barrel -may be with thermal sleve.

ianS

I'm not sure which barrel it is yet, we'll have to wait and see what the designer sends us.

M45 Pershing is the CS tank with 105mm howitzer of which a few were used I think. I'm assuming things like M24, 45mm M42 ATG, M26 and M4A3E8 and LVT-4 are already available in existing WW2 ranges.

Only 1 Comet appears to have gone to Korea, and that is not definitive, and it appears that it was in the CHurchill Crocodile Squadron HQ. Cromwell VII were used in British Tank Regiment Recce Troops, so that will be needed if you don't make one already.

THe US Marines might need LVT-3 amtracs and LVT(A)-5 amtanks, and Sherman 105mm with bow flamethrowers, but to all intents in 10mm looks like a normal Sherman.

Mark