Quote from: nikharwood on 17 September 2010, 02:42:36 PM
Just spotted this qualifier: in which case I go for this one:



...on the basis that it comes with Tank Girl & Jet Girl [Naomi Watts - who went on to be the pretty starlet in King Kong] 

Quote from: Leon on 17 September 2010, 04:15:56 PM
I don't think that qualifies for this one though...

(Gratuitously re-printing the picture ...) Well, I'm pretty sure that's an M3 or M5 under all the, errm, "extras" so maybe it does.

Back on topic, I've always had a fondness for the Cromwell.

Cheers, Martyn

Well stretching it a bit to turret-less behemoth

The Zveroboy "Beastkiller"

Quote from: Leon on 18 September 2010, 03:40:59 PM
I'm surprised there's not been more mentions for the Tiger, the sheer size of the thing must have it's advantages!

Nah.  Tiger's were overrated, mostly due to the experiences of the British and US troops who had little equipment to take it out. 
The Russians had a far better time dealing with it.

And the Tiger has many serious disadvantages.

Rushed into service they were mechanically unreliable and indeed poorly designed with overcomplicated wheels and a seriously slow turret traverse (Whitman never turned his turret because of this, risking throwing his tracks but turning the whole tank). 
FAR too big and heavy, they couldn't use most roads, bridges, couldn't use rail transport without changing to narrow tracks, and had a very limited range, requiring a lot of fuel.

I think it's gained a reputation far beyond its actual importance.

Quote from: Luddite on 20 September 2010, 09:48:37 PM
Nah.  Tiger's were overrated, mostly due to the experiences of the British and US troops who had little equipment to take it out. 
The Russians had a far better time dealing with it.

And the Tiger has many serious disadvantages.

Rushed into service they were mechanically unreliable and indeed poorly designed with overcomplicated wheels and a seriously slow turret traverse (Whitman never turned his turret because of this, risking throwing his tracks but turning the whole tank). 
FAR too big and heavy, they couldn't use most roads, bridges, couldn't use rail transport without changing to narrow tracks, and had a very limited range, requiring a lot of fuel.

I think it's gained a reputation far beyond its actual importance.

Interesting stuff, cheers for that.   

I am inclined to accept the common conclusion that the best size for a tank is as small as it can be and get the job done.  That may be quite large, but they shoudl still be small.

I am tempted to do a game where every German tank starts the game represented by a model  tiger and every assault gun an elephant.  You find out what it really is when it takes its first shot (or you find out how little it took to kill it)  For fun, an certain percentage really will be what they seem...

Easy enough, it can only be Gruber's little tank from Allo Allo.

Centaur Tank - Royal Marines Armoured Support Group 1944. 95mm of close support goodness, and commando trained.