Newlines have added quite a bit of stuff for 10mm chariot-era games. Since Pendraken doesn't cover this period, I presume I may mention it here without offence? Especially if it gets us some Pendraken Assyrians....

Very interesting... more so once we see some pics, mind you. I know nothing whatever about Newline minis.

I'm using quite a lot of their stuff with Pendraken figures (and a few I.M. and M.M.) for ancients; more than satisfied.

Though I agree some pictures would be welcome, and I hope they keep their promise to do some Assyrians too, since those are my favourite opponents for the Gyppoes.

Mmmm, they have just told me that the hosts of Assur are on the workbench.

Very interesting, I love this period but it's rare for companies to produce much for the bronze age, I've used Old Glory and Magister. 

Played a very nice game last week with Hittites facing NKE with the Egyptians just managing a narrow victory.

I've also used Egyptians, Assyrians and Homeric Greeks in Warmaster Ancients competitions with some success although seeing Homeric Greeks facing off against Wars of the Roses Yorkists does look rather anomalous.

Hmmmm, I detest that tendency to warp everything into fantasy. But tell me, thou that knowest, what are those Old Glory figures like? I'm thinking About whether using them would make problems in basing, since they're already in strips.

I may speculate on some Babylonians...

The old glory Egyptians arent bad, the chariots are nice and go together well and the rider and bowman ( one piece casting) actually fit in the chariot. The downside is that the command strip is on a 30mm strip and the troops are on a 35mm strip ( from memory) the bowmen come as single castings

QuoteI detest that tendency to warp everything into fantasy

I generally agree with you, but as long as you treat such games and competitions as nothing more than fantasy games and an interesting way to spend a weekend playing several games with generally decent opponents there's no harm done.

At least that's what I keep telling myself in the wee small hours when I wake up in a cold sweat fearing that my 'Serious Historical Ancients Gamer' credentials could be in doubt.

As for the OG strip question I generally don't find it a problem, only the close order infantry come in strips of 5 figures, all cavalry, archers and light infantry are based as singles.  I base all my ancients for WM and find that the strips are too small so I simply cut one or two figures off another strip and add them to the side of the main strip.  I've done this hundreds of times and have never had a problem with the stips not cutting easily and cleanly.

For most WM elements of close order infantry using OG strips I generally mount 7 figures on the front of the base and 6 on the rear, slightly off set to look between the front rank however for my Byzantines I went for 8 and 7.  One advantage of figures on strips is that they actually look like they are in close order formation, here's a few units of Byzantine Skutatoi and archers

I'll try and get some pictures of the Assyrians sorted out over the weekend but I'm going away so might not manage it until next week.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 May 2014, 11:04:06 AM
Hmmmm, I detest that tendency to warp everything into fantasy.

Ahh yes....

Because using toy soldiers speculatively modelled and painted to reflect the limited and undoubtedly inaccurate sources that survive, to play imaginary games that recreate battles that may or may not have taken place, in a manner that they may or may not have been fought, to achieve an outcome we're not certain of is entirely NOT fantasy.



Personally i detest the view that pushing some orcs around a purple model forest is somehow inferior to pushing Falsturmjaeger around a model green forest.

QuoteBecause using toy soldiers speculatively modelled and painted to reflect the limited and undoubtedly inaccurate sources that survive, to play imaginary games that recreate battles that may or may not have taken place, in a manner that they may or may not have been fought, to achieve an outcome we're not certain of is entirely NOT fantasy

Of course it's not, our games are detailed simulations of armed conflict through the ages, based on this principle I have, over many years of study, concluded that historically successful generals undoubtably cheated on a regular basis.  In fact I can prove that, without a shadow of doubt, Alexander turned up to Gaugamela with at least 3000 points more in his army than he'd previously agreed with Darius.

Quote from: Luddite on 02 May 2014, 02:50:46 PM
Personally i detest the view that pushing some orcs around a purple model forest is somehow inferior to pushing Falsturmjaeger around a model green forest.

Wait, are you saying orcs aren't real???

Well, that would explain why my history teacher was so pissed off when he found me reading Lord of the Rings in his class.

Wow! LotR isn't history ... who knew! 

All wargaming is fantasy

You mean like when you use Dendra armour as Daleks?