WSS Rule decision help

Started by old smokie, 08 April 2014, 10:16:38 AM

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old smokie

Just got into the WSS period and need some help deciding on which rules to use, can't make my mind up I have Maurice, Polemos, Lace wars not really taken with any of them  :-\

The main problem is I already have a pile of stuff based, Pendraken 10mm figures, infantry and cavalry on 30mmx30mm bases and artillery on 40mmx40mm bases and definitely don't want to try re-basing the figures, tried before and it was a disaster ruined three stands of figures >:(. My infantry consist of 5 bases per unit and the cavalry 3 bases per unit, the artillery is the usual one model gun representing x amount of guns.

Looking for rules with stand removal rather than figure removal, not chart or paperwork heavy, also units being a decent size not one or two bases per unit as some seem to be.

any help appreciated  :)

Duke Speedy of Leighton

I'm going to get screamed at...

Volley and Bayonet have linear rules.
Or...
Black Powder - Last Argument of Kings, with A LARGE pinch of salt?
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old smokie

Black Powder - Last Argument of Kings do you need the main Black Powder rules to use this ?

JimLeCat

Have you looking at Might and Reason?

mollinary

Prepare to be shocked - I agree with Mad Lemmey on this!  :o :o

Volley and Bayonet are not everyone's cup of tea, but I believe that they are at their best in the linear period of the eighteenth century, where infantry are based on regiment stands which are linear, rather than their usual square bases.  Not sure if this variant is included in the Second Edition, which i think is more Napoleonic focused, but they were certainly contained in the first edition.  "simple and elegant" sums them up nicely, I think.  I wouldn't worry about rebasing. The standard rules would give you an infantry unit on a three inch wide by one and a half inch deep base. If you want to keep this ratio then you can go for 60mm units and adjust accordingly.   I would also not worry overly about the depth. If you want your units to be 150mm long then why not, just remember to adjust the movement distances and firing ranges.

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

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Fenton

There is a very nice free supplement for WSS on the Might and Reason website
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Chad

Have had no issues with Maurice and the original BP gives
a good game. The guy who wrote the Last Argument
Of Kings has, in my opinion, little knowledge of the WSS given
the nonsense about Eugene's command at. Blenheim.

One of the interesting sets I have tried are on the Warflag
Site.

Chad

sunjester


Sandinista

Use Pike & Shotte for early years, my favourite rule set

Ferb


Hussargeneral

Beneath the Lily Banners work for me, as long as you have both sides based the same it will work. Three elements per Battalion. I really rate them. Designed for the period, playable with the right flavour.

Chad

I had forgotten Beneath the Lily Banners. Agree they work.

Chad

Bernie

Hi Chad

Quote from: Chad on 08 April 2014, 01:54:50 PM
The guy who wrote the Last Argument
Of Kings has, in my opinion, little knowledge of the WSS given
the nonsense about Eugene's command at. Blenheim.

Do not know the rules Last Argument of Kings, but can you summarise the problems the designer has created for himself?

sunjester

My feeling on The Last Argument of Kings is that it takes 7YW army lists and shoehorns them into WSS. I bought it with high hopes, read it once, then left it on the shelf.