Just picked up a copy of these rules on recommendation from a buddy and will be hopefully playing a agme in the next week.

I noticed they had a photo or two of PD figs - anyone played these at all? What are people's thoughts?

I haven't played the full rules...I play the Basic version, mostly due to time but will be buying the rule Baroque version when they are released

This is one of my favourite sites

http://www.fat-wally.com/Impetvs.html

 :)These IMHO are one of the best rules sets around,(for me maybe the best) I've played loads of games with them.  :)Enjoy

Mr Fenton thanks for posting that link a great Blog . Also we found the full version played quicker I would recommend giving it a go.

Regards
Jason.

I also thoroughly recommend the rules - the full set adds heaps more flavour, colour and decision nodes into the free basic set

Impetus really rejuvenated our ancients mojo after the slow agonising death that was the DBM-FOG war.

Fun, fast and surprisingly authentic - although some of the free online lists are very flaky but then they are free, those in the Extra Impetus books are much better. And the forum is extremely helpful

Have fun, if you run into trouble deciphering some of the Italian-English transliterations just shout up, the key is the game really doesn't try and overcomplicate things, the simple answer is probably the correct one.

I too can't wait for the full Baroque - it was promised for Salute but I fear I will be disappointed.

They're probably our favourite rules at the club for ancients / medieval too. They can sometimes be a little obtuse in places, but that's translation issues more than anything, I think. They play pretty quickly once you get the hang of them though, and they're far more enjoyable than DBM/FoG.

Hi

These sound really interesting. Can someone let me know what size bases they use (for 10mmm and 15mm figures) and where I can get a copy of the rules.

many thanks. Paul

If you based in the UK then North Star I think is your best bet

Base sizes arent fixed...People who play in 6 or 10mm use 60x30 or 80x40 ,l in 28mm they go up to 120x60

they have been designed to fit in with other rulesets

North Star have just received a restock - £27.50 incl P&P in the UK and arrived in two days

Bloody good set of rules, IMO. We've run through a lot and been jaded by many, but Impetus really picked up our Ancients & Medieval games - got loads of use out of otherwise languishing for years 15's! So much so we're off into 10mm for some periods we haven't covered before. Well, only partly covered... everyone needs more pike, pilum and elephants, right?

Quote from: T13A on 02 April 2014, 09:27:52 AM
Hi

These sound really interesting. Can someone let me know what size bases they use (for 10mmm and 15mm figures) and where I can get a copy of the rules.

many thanks. Paul

As others have said North Star is your UK dealer.

For basing you have the following:
Only frontage is critical - the depths can be altered if wanted but this is standard

Cavalry / Mounted Troops = 80mm x 60mm
Close Order "heavy" infantry = 80mm x 30mm
Loose Order and Missile infantry = 80mm x 40mm
Skirmishers = 80mm x 20mm (although many use greater depth)

Chariots, elephants, artillery, etc = 80mm x 60mm

As to numbers of troops that is of no consequence, building a vignette on the base is the idea. However in 15mm I went with:
cataphracts = 8 figs
heavy cavalry = 6 figs
light cavalry = 4 figs
pikes = 16 figs
other close order "heavy" foot = 12 figs
loose order, warband, thureophoroi or auxilia type foot = 8 figs
missile troops = 8 figs
skirmishers = 4 figs

note some troops (hoplites, pikes, warband) can form 'large units' of more than one base so that should be born in mind when making the vignettes.

there are heaps of excellent photos on the web - try BigRedBat for instance http://bigredbat.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00Z&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=50

or there are some dodgy photos on my flickr page below

For 10mm I'd just add more figs to the 80mm standard to look good. Although the 6mm standard is a 60mm base and you could opt for that. Check what others in the area have done or if you're trailblazing do what you think looks best. Using the 80mm standard would at least allow you to play v 15mm armies and 10mm WM armies (the basing is essentially 4 WRG or WM bases to a unit footprint), whereas 60mm would leave you in limbo I think.

hope that helps

Enjoy - Impetus is heaps of fun, just don't expect to control everything, the best you can do is stack the odds but fate may have other ideas!

I thought 60mm frontage was standard for 10mm sclae, 80mm is an option. Or is it vice versa? 

I've tried Basic Impetus and the full Monty, and settled on Basic with some added chrome from the full game. Any way, it's my preferred system

Quote from: Wulf on 02 April 2014, 04:22:00 PM
I thought 60mm frontage was standard for 10mm sclae, 80mm is an option. Or is it vice versa? 

Could be - I think it's in the usual middle ground of either/or but I don't have the book in front of me 

Besides Paul did ask for the 15mm basing conventions as well 

I think  one of the beauties of the game is that you can use what ever basing you want as long as both armies use the same frontage for their units

Just had a quick look - how well does it cope with bigger armies? The first page mentions 7-10 units, which for my group would  be regarded as pretty tiny. We would want at least twice that size.

Just up the points, as far as I am aware there are rules for allied generals etc

there is a nice set of free fantasy rules for it as well