Who is this Bonehead and doesn't he ever watch the news?

All of shows why we should stick to to wargames and totty and leave politics and religion alone.

Zoroastrian weirdos! 

I personally hated the divisive effect she had (and is still having with a neo-thatcher as PM) on this country, she destroyed the power of the unions (not a bad thing) but then continued viciously dismantling anything or anyone who was opposed to her particular world view. The shear arrogance of the woman was amazing, her treatment of an entire city (Liverpool) was a disgrace. The unregulated banks started with her ideas for a new Britain (not a manufacturing hub...don't need factories they vote Labour....rich bankers are they way) The dead buried on a South Atlantic Island can be put at her feet, she encouraged the Argentinian Invasion and thus the War with her diplomatic shenanigans (withdrawal of the last RN presence in the South Atlantic being a prime example of the signals she sent to the Argentinians when they were negotiating the return of the islands...not that I think the islands are Argentinian....they want to remain British then end of story as far as I am concerned). The corrupt deals for her husbands company in the  middle east using arms deals to secure hotel building contracts. The evilness of this woman is up there with Lucretia Borgia, the only difference for me is that Borgia was long dead before I was born and couldn't effect me directly...Thatcher did.

She is dead, let her go and forget the horror of her rule.
Needles to say I have signed it.

Actually, we NEED trade unions here. We're virtually helpless in an employer's hands.

If you had lived and worked through the Seventies and early eighties you would see my point...they were out of control. Unions exist to protect the working man (or woman for that matter  I can't believe I came up with a PC comment there!!) not to dictate policy to government. A tiny minority of agitators were able to force through a strike vote and bring an entire industry to a halt, often for the most pointless/ridiculous of reasons. I worked on a unionised site in the early eighties, I was allowed to drill through metal, but had to wait for the joiner to drill the wooded section of the job, the justification was it was his job not mine...not a problem with that, but, it meant we were twice as expensive as our opposition for the same sort of contracts...the company no longer exists and everyone has lost out.  Trade union's didn't  focus on their reason for existence and instead dabbled in politics and national economic policy,  we have  elected representatives for this, the  Union view was not representative of the National desire and as such was un-democratic and unfair. I think the unions are, to a large extent, responsible for the rise of the cancer that was Margret Thatcher and the Tory Greed Party of the eighties, nineties and now.

I know. One good custom can corrupt the world.

Having lived and worked through the 70's and 80's the early Thatcher Years were 'interesting' to say the least.

She did much that was bad but much that was necessary.

She came in with a plan to smash the unions and did it, the winter of discontent was hell, a 3 day working week and electricity on ration is not the way to run a major country. I can remember going to the electricity board showroom on the high street on my way home from school to look up when we would have power. The uniouns broke govenments, they were unellected and playing at power politics. 

I also seem to remember inflation at about 30%, the country was being bailled out by the IMF for God's sake.

She was however completely batty by the end, her idea of the poll tax was a shambles, she tried it in Scotland and it destroyed the Torries north of the border, and when she brought in into England and Wales it was the begining of the end for her.

She did have one other saving grace, she believed in Parliament, after the Falklands there was a full public enquiry, I wonder if Cameron will launch one after we finally pull out of Afganistan? 

So on balance I admire her, I don't like her and think it's rediculous and stupid to rename a public holiday after her, but I do admire her.

Voted for it.

Hope she festers in the Seven Nether Regions of Hell!

I am NOT joking

Largely as a result of the introduction of the Poll Tax in Scotland by the Thatcher administration, I would argue, Conservative support in Scotland has fallen to the point that, as pointed out on the radio recently, there are twice as many Giant Pandas as Tory MPs in Scotland.

I can not agree, she made our country great again, got rid of the Argi`s..
saved our coal for the future...for when the ruskies cut off our gas...
Kicked the crap out of a lot of hypocritical men.....and never swung her handbag....

Quote from: marie on 06 March 2014, 02:04:00 AM
I can not agree, she made our country great again, got rid of the Argi`s..
saved our coal for the future...for when the ruskies cut off our gas...
Kicked the crap out of a lot of hypocritical men.....and never swung her handbag....

She did not save our coal: the mines were not maintained and it would be practically impossible to get at most of it now.

where there is a will there is a way,lol......

I signed it because I couldn't stand the woman, what she stood for or what she did to get another term in office. I still vote but never Tory because of her legacy. But saying that, I struggle to think of any that are worth a vote nowadays.

My advice is that as it's not broken why try and fix it?

Leave it as it is, that way you can't upset anybody.

An interesting programme coming up next week on the legacy of the miners strike, which is still very raw in affected communities; families not talking to 'scabs' even after all of these years. One interesting point was that in one pit, the miners didn't want to strike, yet the Union told them they had to because that's what the NUM wanted! So much for democracy .

Quote from: Steve J on 06 March 2014, 12:41:45 PM
An interesting programme coming up next week on the legacy of the miners strike, which is still very raw in affected communities; families not talking to 'scabs' even after all of these years. One interesting point was that in one pit, the miners didn't want to strike, yet the Union told them they had to because that's what the NUM wanted! So much for democracy .

I have no sort of sympathy for bullies, but if a minority can ignore policy decisions, we're looking at anarchy, not democracy. Whether this is a good thing or not is another issue.