Seen it.  Signed it.

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/52411/signature/new

Bury her at the crossroads with a stake through her heart. If she had one, as a better Tory might have said.

But then, neither of you is English....

Quote from: Hertsblue on 01 March 2014, 10:23:13 AM
But then, neither of you are English....

By English I assume you mean British as she was PM of Great Britain, England hasn't had one since 1707. Problem is this nonsense would apply throughout the so-called UK. Before you cast aspersions at rebellious Scots, best to take a poll in northern England on the late Maggie's popularity.

I'm not, but my grandfather devoted five years of his life to fighting for the Empire.

Apart from that, if she hadn't done what she did to British education, I might be having an easier time when reading the bizarre grammar on many of these posts.

And if someone tries to start WWIII and wreck civilisation, I'd say we were all stakeholders. Pass the mallet.

Burning in hell for eternity is far to good for that bitch    but then this is probably not the forum for this

Ahhhhh... Politics...... that great old opinion divider

Maggie might have been a tough old boot but she had a pair bigger than any of todays 'legend in their own lunchtime' oxygen thiefs.

And before anyone starts about polls in the North, I'm from the North and watched the devastation of the miners strike at first hand.

I wont be signing, but can understand why others would. Regardless of the result what this government wants will go ahead anyway. Anyone remember the public outcry about her funeral...

I did not attempt to start infighting and bad mood here gentlemen.

Matter of fact the bill would only be applying to England, Wales and Northern Ireland (as stated in the text).

My personal believe is that this woman has done bad things to this country where I live in (Great Britain) and to honour HER with a public holiday whereas much more renowned personnel has not received similar honours is a disgrace (Churchill, Drake, Watt, Darwin, Adam Smith...)

Besides personal preferences and political snipes I ask to keep this sporty please.

Shakespeare, Turner, Pope, Newton, Darwin....To do it for any politician is absurd!

Quote from: sebigboss79 on 01 March 2014, 10:48:29 AM
I did not attempt to start infighting and bad mood here gentlemen.

Matter of fact the bill would only be applying to England, Wales and Northern Ireland (as stated in the text).

My personal believe is that this woman has done bad things to this country where I live in (Great Britain) and to honour HER with a public holiday whereas much more renowned personnel has not received similar honours is a disgrace (Churchill, Drake, Watt, Darwin, Adam Smith...)

Besides personal preferences and political snipes I ask to keep this sporty please.

Personally I didn't think this post thread has got un-sporty, but thats the nature of the politics/thatcher theme. It will invariably divide opinion like marmite... see my new post/poll

Quote from: Nosher on 01 March 2014, 10:58:31 AM
Personally I didn't think this post thread has got un-sporty, but thats the nature of the politics/thatcher theme. It will invariably divide opinion like marmite... see my new post/poll

I was merely attempting to calm the waves before a potential storm. It is understood that certain topics (politics, football, marmite...) are a bit controversial.

Though I'm not sure why this is in the "Wargaming Topics" forum, mind you.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 March 2014, 11:25:40 AM
Though I'm not sure why this is in the "Wargaming Topics" forum, mind you.

Because it's shaping up nicely to become a war in here?

Met the old bat once and, while I loathed her politics, she was definitely one of the better politicians face-to-face. She engaged with you, if she was talking to you she was talking to you, whoever you were. Several others I've met in social situations were far to busy looking round the room for someone important whilst talking AT you.

Didn't stop me sniggering at Frankie Boyle's comment about Thatcher's funeral, mind you.

Coming from East Anglia I had a very different view of the Thatcher Years. As an example:

- The Unions didn't give a toss about those who suffered in the Eastern Counties as they were and are most likely to be, always Conservative. I know from bitter experience when my Dad was laid off. This contrasts markedly with what happened in the Midlands and the North. A farm labourer without work and in the middle of the Fens suffered just as much as a miner in the North East.

- After the 'Winter of Discontent' the first term of the new Conservative administration felt like a breath of fresh air in comparison. Almost exactly the same was felt when Tony Blair won his first election. Both leaders then went from bad to worse in successive terms IMHO.

- After the terrible decade of the '70s, the '80s under Thatcher felt wonderful in comparison. Working in the design industry, we finally started to sort out decades of mis-administration in manufacturing, with the Unions and mangement equally to blame. London at this time was a great place to be where anything seemed possible.

I for one was glad of the 'wind of change' that the Thatcher era brought in, just as I was with Tony Blair. However I can see no reason whatever for changing the August Bank Holiday into a Thatcher one.

Of course it really helps the "cause" if:

1. People have even the slightest awareness of current affairs relating to their "cause" - the bill to change August BH to Margaret Thatcher Day actually failed it's second reading yesterday, before this thread was started!

2. Those raising petitions for public consumption used a spell checker (given that everyone's education in the UK was personally destroyed by Maggie) - what is a "poposal" or a "Holday"?

I'll just point out here that I have no more time for "Maggie Thatcher Milk Snatcher" that I do for that back-stabbing little sh** Blair....not true at least Maggie wasn't a war criminal and she waited for someone to invade us before starting a war!

Who is this Bonehead and doesn't he ever watch the news?

All of shows why we should stick to to wargames and totty and leave politics and religion alone.

Zoroastrian weirdos! 

I personally hated the divisive effect she had (and is still having with a neo-thatcher as PM) on this country, she destroyed the power of the unions (not a bad thing) but then continued viciously dismantling anything or anyone who was opposed to her particular world view. The shear arrogance of the woman was amazing, her treatment of an entire city (Liverpool) was a disgrace. The unregulated banks started with her ideas for a new Britain (not a manufacturing hub...don't need factories they vote Labour....rich bankers are they way) The dead buried on a South Atlantic Island can be put at her feet, she encouraged the Argentinian Invasion and thus the War with her diplomatic shenanigans (withdrawal of the last RN presence in the South Atlantic being a prime example of the signals she sent to the Argentinians when they were negotiating the return of the islands...not that I think the islands are Argentinian....they want to remain British then end of story as far as I am concerned). The corrupt deals for her husbands company in the  middle east using arms deals to secure hotel building contracts. The evilness of this woman is up there with Lucretia Borgia, the only difference for me is that Borgia was long dead before I was born and couldn't effect me directly...Thatcher did.

She is dead, let her go and forget the horror of her rule.
Needles to say I have signed it.

Actually, we NEED trade unions here. We're virtually helpless in an employer's hands.

If you had lived and worked through the Seventies and early eighties you would see my point...they were out of control. Unions exist to protect the working man (or woman for that matter  I can't believe I came up with a PC comment there!!) not to dictate policy to government. A tiny minority of agitators were able to force through a strike vote and bring an entire industry to a halt, often for the most pointless/ridiculous of reasons. I worked on a unionised site in the early eighties, I was allowed to drill through metal, but had to wait for the joiner to drill the wooded section of the job, the justification was it was his job not mine...not a problem with that, but, it meant we were twice as expensive as our opposition for the same sort of contracts...the company no longer exists and everyone has lost out.  Trade union's didn't  focus on their reason for existence and instead dabbled in politics and national economic policy,  we have  elected representatives for this, the  Union view was not representative of the National desire and as such was un-democratic and unfair. I think the unions are, to a large extent, responsible for the rise of the cancer that was Margret Thatcher and the Tory Greed Party of the eighties, nineties and now.