needing some help with  understanding WSS regiment/battalion flags

Starting out with an Austrian and French army, from what I have read so far some units had any where between 1 and 4 flags    (battalion, colonel, and majors colors etc), how may flags are people putting on their command stands and which ones

any help appreciated

I have 4 figures on a base for WSS (20x20mm) and usually have two flags, the regimental and colonel's colours.

Except for most of my French units where I only field the regimental colour. White cross on a white field indeed! I'm not fielding a French army carrying white flags, it's 1940 all over again!

I use battalions of 12 figures with 1 flag for units with multiple battalions. I use the colonel's  flag for the 1st battalion and the regimental flag for the other battalions.

You can never have too many flags per WSS regt!!

I recommend you go here http://www.mts.net/~homenic1/vaubanner/vaubandex.html

All thanks to Clib, order the SYW ones ask for them reduced to 10mm and done I'll see if I can get some pics of my 16 Marlburian French and Allied Battalions dopne in the next couple of days for you, each flag set comes with the colonel and regimental standards and are gorgeous, service is outstanding to

Cheers Rex

Quote from: sunjester on 12 December 2013, 12:51:00 AM
Except for most of my French units where I only field the regimental colour. White cross on a white field indeed! I'm not fielding a French army carrying white flags, it's 1940 all over again!

The cross aint white - it silver

IanS

For the French, my understanding is that each battalion carried 3 flags during the WSS.   For the
Austrians, it appears that they carried one flag per Company until 1711 and then one flag per
battalion thereafter.   So, if you really like lots of flags, you can get away with a higher number
per battalion.

The number of flags you actually use would, I imagine, depend on the number of figures per battalion.
The above pic sems to show quite large Batts of 36 figures which look fantastic with three flags.
With fewer figures, I would probably just stick with two flags.

Cheers,


Phil

Hi ya as promised I was dabbling with a variant of Warmaster today (yes oh my god to those who know me arghh lols)! anyways here are some shots of the Vaubanner Flag details used on my Marlburian French and Allies... You will just have to excuse the very sun bleached base cloth and unpainted stream after five days of fighting pouring rain and patching house leaks and drain overflows I was too stuffed to get really whizzy   

http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/Bitemetosser/slideshow/SYW%20French

Cheers Rex

let us know if the link doesnt work one of the whizz kids will know how to fix it 

Great work Rex !

The link works fine for me.
Cheers - Phil

Those are great pictures.

Always love it when your blog spot comes up, great name! 

Great units, Rex. You seem to have an awful lot of Irish, though. 

...because of the recession.

To return to the thread, all French battalions carried three colours (according to René Chartrand in the Osprey title Louis XIV's Army) of which one in the first (or only) battalion was the white colonel's colour. The regimental flags usually (but not always) carried the white Armagnac cross with variously coloured quarters. Royal regiments normally bore rows of fleur-de-lys on the cross, whilst the Swiss and Irish carried mottoes on the cross (In hoc signo vinces being favourite).

For the Imperial army The Imperial Austrian Infantry Regiments 1700 - 1714 by August Kühn and Robert Hall, states that each company carried a flag up until 1711 (and from 1704 to 1714 each battalion was supposed to have five companies) the 1st company carrying the Leibfahn. Thereafter the number was reduced to one per battalion, except that the 1st battalion also carried the Leibfahn.

Hope this helps.   

Quote from: Hertsblue on 31 December 2013, 10:25:04 AM
Great units, Rex. You seem to have an awful lot of Irish, though. 

Of topic  Would love them to be Clib's but started this wee project before his LOA's came out  however yeah just working through creating a variant of the old Shako I Fields of Glory Supplements using Marlburian so overall we have 16 battalions done max total at this stage for the French will be 28 later on thinking of being crazy and doing a Marlburian variant of the Shako II Supplement grand Austerlitz game...that needs 72 Battalions alone on the French side...probably a couple of years away yet  about to start some Allies now for a break from grey, one of the joys of Marlburian though is so many cool uniforms and flags on each side makes a pleasant change from the mass of Napoleonics.

Anyways as I say i digress at least two more battalions of irish to do yet  but I cant recommend the Vaubanner Flags enough

Cheers Rex

My Austrians and Prussians have 36 man units, 6 bases of 3 wide, 2 deep.  The middle two each have one flag- one the regimental, the other the leibsfahrn.  Any more and I think they would look 'overflagged'