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Started by richardtj, 10 December 2013, 09:55:39 AM

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richardtj

Hi There,

My name is Richard and I run a small painting business in Gateshead - www.iwantapaintedarmy.co.uk, and I'm also an insurance broker!

I saw Pendraken's models at Border Reiver this year, and have been really tempted to try both Fantasy and Napoleonics in 10mm.

However, I have no idea what rules sets are best for these periods - can anyone offer some suggestions?

Thanks!

RichardTJ

Fenton

Welcome to the forum

For rules I dont play Napoleonic's so cant really answer that one

There are many Fantasy sets out there, Warmaster is quite good if you can still find a copy. there are many other fantasy sets out there..I know people who like Fantasy Impetus which is free to download. Someone on here is writing a set which we are all looking forward to seeing at some point.
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Leon

Hi Richard, welcome to the Forum!

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Steve J

Welcome on board Richard. Warmaster is free to download off Rick Priestley's site and has plenty of updates I believe. Re: Nappies, no idea I'm afraid.

Fenton

Hi Richard again

I forgot about Kings of War which people play in 10mm as well...lovely system ( apart from the artillery)
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

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Hi Richard ! :-h
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Hertsblue

Hi Richard. Welcome to the forum. I too was an insurance (life and pensions) broker for a time back in the days when I had to earn a living.

As far as Nopoleonics are concerned, Dave Brown's General de Brigade is good set - if slightly complicated for a beginner. If you want something easy-peasy just to cut your teeth on you might try these, which you can download for nothing:

http://rulesdepot.net/page63.html
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OldenBUA

Hello Richard, welcome to the forum.

You could always kill two birds with one stone by trying HOTT (Hordes of the things). It's a DBA style fantasy set, which uses small armies and has a lot of lists. Including a Napoleonic semi-historical list, which is about as close as I would like to get to the period, since in all honesty I wouldn't want to touch it with a barge pole! But maybe that's just me, because it seems that all wargamers start with Napoleonics.
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fsn

Welcome Mr Tj.

I'll give my usual answer which is reaserch and write your own. Never really had much to do with fantasy since my Tunnels and Trolls phase in the '80s (if you can remember it - you were probably there) but do you have to find a rule set that corresponds to your own mental fantasy universe?

In the Conan universe, magic is a rare and dangerous (to its users) thing. Monsters are also few and far between and there aren't really other races such as dwarves, elves and so on. At the other end there's the Lord of the Rings where anyone with a twig can be a wizard and the guy standing next to you at the bar is probably not human - and we all know places like that.

My own personal fantasy universe is ... let's just say it's neither of those things.
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Steve J

Ah, Tunnels and Trolls...

Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? We played it at lunchtimes in school but from memory never finished a turn as combat took so long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery

Ithoriel

10 December 2013, 02:24:16 PM #11 Last Edit: 10 December 2013, 02:33:05 PM by Ithoriel
Quote from: fsn on 10 December 2013, 12:49:26 PM
At the other end there's the Lord of the Rings where anyone with a twig can be a wizard and the guy standing next to you at the bar is probably not human - and we all know places like that.

Actually there are probably only 6 beings in Lord of the Rings who might count as Wizards (the five Istari and Sauron) and they are more properly counted as angels than as wizards and they rarely use magic. Elves are rare, Dwarves more so and Hobbits rare enough to be the stuff of legends to most. Depending on your location most bar patrons will be human or goblinoid. Conan on the other hand seems to be off killing evil wizards and necromancers every second Tuesday :)

As to rules, for quick, easy to play games which don't require much outlay for armies, Hordes of the Things is hard to beat.

Warmaster needs more figures, especially for horde armies like the undead, and is more complex to play but therefore gives more challenge when actually playing. It is a game which reflects it's source material (fantasy fiction) which, it seems to me, is written largely by people who have no concept of military realities. The commonest charge levelled at Warmaster is that it is not "realistic" - an unrealistic game in which the walking dead ride into battle on six tons of armoured, firebreathing, flying death ... no sh*t Sherlock!   ;D

Showing my own biases here but I don't like Kings of War for the same reason I don't like Warhammer - in my entirely unimportant opinion, neither of them can decide if they are big battle or skirmish rules and so I find those games irritating and unsatisfying. However, your mileage may vary and you may love them for all the reasons I don't - don't let my idiosyncrasies put you off!   

On the question of Napoleonic vs Fantasy. As a beginner, a genre where no one can go "The 5th Khemrian Guards Infantry Regiment wore silver buttons and had green facings by that period" has much to recommend it so I'd plump for Fantasy but again that's just me.

Last, but by no means least, welcome to the mad house ... forum. Enjoy your stay whatever you decide.
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Ithoriel

Quote from: Steve J on 10 December 2013, 02:03:53 PM
Ah, Tunnels and Trolls...

Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? We played it at lunchtimes in school but from memory never finished a turn as combat took so long.

Empire of the Petal Throne, SPI's Dragonquest (still my favourite RPG system), Harnquest, Runequest, Fantasy Hero, GURPS Fantasy, Amber diceless, Tunnels and Trolls, Chivalry and Sorcery, Dungeons and Dragons, Powers and Perils - played them all and GM'd many of them.

The only one I never really got into was "Architects and Accountants" or "First Life" as it is sometimes known - the first and only release in the Real World(TM) series  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Fenton

Quote from: Steve J on 10 December 2013, 02:03:53 PM


Anyone remember playing Chivalry & Sorcery? W

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry_%26_Sorcery

Please dont mention that game...It will bring my nervous rash out again
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Fenton

Ok then *deep breath* Runquest, D&D AD&D, T&T Chivalry and Sorcery, MERP, Rolemaster, Pendragon GURPS,Pallidium Warhammer RPG, plau many many more


Pendragon I think has been my favouite although AD&D for longevity still is up there
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!