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Title: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 29 July 2013, 01:04:42 AM
Me and the missus are considering having a weekend break in Geneva next March, so thought I'd see if anyone else had been there?  Aside from the usual tourist-y stuff in the city, we're hoping to hire a car and head over towards Mont Blanc, as well as try and see the Hadron Collider down the road at CERN.

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Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: sebigboss79 on 29 July 2013, 09:16:04 AM
There are sights except the Freddy Mercury pilgrimage statue?

How about former league of nations assembly? UN... but be aware it is the third most expnsive city in the world :(
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: TinyTerrain on 29 July 2013, 11:09:04 AM
Hi Leon,

I fly in and out of Geneva pretty regulalrly with work. Its v expensive (I bought 3 beers in my hotel last time and it was 27 Euros!) My advice woudl be hire a car and pop over the border to France. Some stunning mountain scenery less than 30 minutes drive away.

Ive never done the tourist thing in Geneva so not sure exactly what you get,

Cheers,

Craig
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: barbarian on 29 July 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Go to Grenoble or Annecy...cheaper.
In march, you could ski but beware of the outrageous price of the ski lifts.
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 29 July 2013, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: sebigboss79 on 29 July 2013, 09:16:04 AM
There are sights except the Freddy Mercury pilgrimage statue?

How about former league of nations assembly? UN... but be aware it is the third most expnsive city in the world :(

Wrong side of the lake for the statue, although as a big Queen fan, it would be nice to go see it.  I noticed the Palais des Nations, so we'll have a wander up to that I think.

Quote from: TinyTerrain on 29 July 2013, 11:09:04 AM
I fly in and out of Geneva pretty regularly with work. Its v expensive (I bought 3 beers in my hotel last time and it was 27 Euros!) My advice woudl be hire a car and pop over the border to France. Some stunning mountain scenery less than 30 minutes drive away.

Ive never done the tourist thing in Geneva so not sure exactly what you get,

Cheers for that, I'd heard that it was quite expensive, hopefully just a 3-day break won't be too bad.  We're not big spenders generally anyway, we're usually happy with a cheap cafe and a coffee shop for Adele!  I found out that they offer free public transport to anyone who stays in the city, which is a big help, and there's also a free bus service from the airport as well.

The car hire bit is definitely something I want to do.  Mont Blanc looks to be about an hour away, and there's a cable lift thing in Chamonix which takes you up into the mountains, which is supposed to be fantastic.

Quote from: barbarian on 29 July 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Go to Grenoble or Annecy...cheaper.
In march, you could ski but beware of the outrageous price of the ski lifts.

Unfortunately, it all came down to whether we could get flights from Newcastle or Leeds/Bradford on the days we needed them.  We were looking at Venice or Barcelona as our first options, but there's no suitable flights for either of those.  Geneva was a bit of a surprise option for us, we just saw it on the 'Destination' map of our airport, and took a closer look!



Thanks for all the replies!

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Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2013, 08:33:56 PM
Quote from: Leon on 29 July 2013, 01:04:42 AM
try and see the Hadron Collider down the road at CERN.

Don't press any buttons Leon. :-SS :-S ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: TinyTerrain on 06 September 2013, 05:35:45 PM
Update for you Leon.

I am current sat at Burger King Geneva Airport (dont tell the missus)........1 x whooper meal........15 EUROS!

It did taste bloody good and was on expenses  :D

Cheers,

Craig
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 06 September 2013, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: TinyTerrain on 06 September 2013, 05:35:45 PM
Update for you Leon.

I am current sat at Burger King Geneva Airport (dont tell the missus)........1 x whooper meal........15 EUROS!

It did taste bloody good and was on expenses  :D

Are you going into the city?  I've read on their tourist info website that you get a free travel card which gets you into the city without having to pay for a taxi?  Is that through a little machine in the airport somewhere?

:-\
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: howayman on 06 September 2013, 06:37:46 PM
Its been over 25 years since i have been to Geneva.
I think it may have changed a bit.
But they still drive on the wrong side of the road. ;)
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 14 September 2013, 01:48:33 PM
Aha! This is right up my alley! I lived in Champel in Geneva / Genf until 2 years ago. Child variant 2 was born there.

Well things to see:

Military / wargaming nonsense...

The old square is very nice. There is the balcony that Napoleon gave his speech from (mixed reception), plus the armoury with some great muriels on the outside and the city walls that withstood the siege in 1602. You get a good view from the park below and get to see the large statues of the protestant faith against the wall. I used to take the children past them on the way to macdonalds...

You should also take in the Geneva military museum. Its near the park of the empress (where napoleons wife used to live). Very interesting. Check out the swiss WW2 uniforms. MINT.

Also, a bit out of town (but a nice little train ride) is Morges army museum. Lots of toy figures (1000's of them) and the museum of artillery. There is lots on the swiss burgundian wars, and the swiss in the Napoleonic times. And a couple of nice cafes there as well.

I would recommend going onto a little lake cruise to Yvoire. Its a really nice little medieval village, with a great Savoyard castle. And its in france so your euro's go a bit further.

For food, if you like prawns (and don't go if don't, as that's all they do), go to the corail rose behind the train station. Its like a prawn buffet. And its bang on...

If you don't like prawns, but do like melted cheese... Go to the edelweiss restaurant on place navigation at the end of paquis. Its proper cheesy with people playing alpine horns etc, and its for tourists, BUT its very nice and good fun. Ha! The last time I went there was a man dressed like a cow! HA!

I would go and look at the posh shops on bourge (had to buy the terror weapon a watch and a handbag from that street... horrific) and visit the red cross museum maybe?

Oh and when you get off the plane and leave the airport, go to town on the train (out the airport, turn left into the building there, down the escalators). Buy a ticket from the little machines. They are in English, its cheaper than the bus or a taxi and its quicker.

Aye...
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: WeeWars on 14 September 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Great info Alan  :)
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 14 September 2013, 08:11:37 PM
comrades, I can't recommend going to Switzerland enough for military whatnots... I should be stood at the front of a bus, in a miniskirt, with a microphone...

The Napoleonic uniforms were very interesting Micheal. If you can, go. Seeing French cut in red is a bit of a mind scramble. Also, there is the pictures and a couple of photographs of the deployment of Swiss troops in the late 19th Century. Their grenadiers are in full uniform like the old guard... And look at the website of the swiss army museum. Look at their shelves... and its not reproduction... its all real!

http://www.armeemuseum.ch/index.php?id=76
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: WeeWars on 15 September 2013, 12:21:54 AM
(http://www.armeemuseum.ch/fileadmin/Bilder_VSAM/News_2013/VSAM_2013_012.jpg)
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: WeeWars on 15 September 2013, 12:35:39 AM
The shakos say so much about French shakos as well. I may not be painting my brass plates and chin straps bright and shiny enough!
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: howayman on 15 September 2013, 02:24:55 PM
I wonder to whom the green bush hat belongs?
Perhaps the same person that has pinched the badge off the top shelf kepi.
It may be a game of find the badge hidden some where in the picture....lets look!
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 17 September 2013, 01:37:43 AM
Thanks for the post Alan, hugely appreciated.  I'm not sure if I'll be able to squeeze the military musuem into a honeymoon trip, but you never know!  It looks like the Friday will be our trip out to Chamonix, as the car rental place is only open for a couple of hours on Sat and Sun.  We can do CERN on Saturday, and then wandering / sightseeing on Sunday.

I've emailed the tourist info people and they said there's a ticket you can get in the airport which gives you 80 minutes worth of travel from the moment you get it, which should be enough to get us into the city.  Do you know if this only applies to a single method of transport, or can we use it on trains / bus / etc?

I'd seen the Yvoire trips online as well, so that sounds nice.  The city travel card applies to some of the boat trips, so I'll have to check and see if it covers that destination.

Thanks as well to Tiny Terrain for answering my questions on Sunday at Colours!

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Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 19 September 2013, 06:00:13 AM
Leon,
you need to be flexible on honeymoon. I managed to squeeze in our nil-nil draw with MK Dons (never going to be a real football team as long as I have a hole in my arse), the day after I got married...

Anyway, when I was there, the tickets did for boats, trams and buses. So it would be worth checking out. Also, if you are going to Chamonix, you will be going on the E25:

1) There is big junction, roundabout, flyover thing near Annemasse in France. Make sure you are in the right lane as it becomes a right royal pain in the arse if you don't. I used to miss the turn to the hypermarket every time.

2) Make sure you have some euros in change for the toll booth.

3) You should get up the saleve maybe on the way or the way back. You go up in a cable car and you get a great view of Geneva from the top.

Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 19 September 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Thanks for the info Alan, especially on the junction of the E25.  I'm going to pay the extra for the SatNav, just to get us in and out of the city, so hopefully that will know where we need to be...  :-\

I'll have a look at the Saleve, we arrive quite early on the Thursday, and we've got a bit of spare time on the Sunday as well.
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Jim Ando on 19 September 2013, 05:43:31 PM
Hi

I pop over every now and again just check on my bank account  :).

Jim
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 19 September 2013, 07:42:35 PM
No problems with the help at all Comrade Leon. In true Stasi fashion, now we have done something for you... its time comrade you did something for us. A small thing. Within the files marked "pendrakenforum.co.uk", you will see a sub file involving requests. There is a small list, very small, not even of interest so its without any risk, of LOA requirements.

What we would need is an EXACT timetable for release of these combat units into mainstream operation within the European theatre (and specifically the Rotherham military district). There have been incidents with satellite tracking and navigational systems throughout our area of interest within the swiss confederation. It would be a new development for us all if you happened to receive such a vehicle. I believe we are as is noted in the UK "as clear as crystals"?
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 19 September 2013, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: Alan on 19 September 2013, 07:42:35 PM
There is a small list, very small, not even of interest so its without any risk, of LOA requirements.

What we would need is an EXACT timetable for release of these combat units into mainstream operation within the European theatre (and specifically the Rotherham military district).

:D

Will you be at the Fiasco show in Leeds next month?
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 19 September 2013, 08:00:09 PM
Of course. I will have the stasi book of codewords with me.

"Can you tell me which train is bound for Dresden"? "no, but are you interested in a picture of a unicorn"?
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 19 September 2013, 08:07:10 PM
Excellent, if you've got 5 minutes during the show, it'd be great to pick your brain on some Geneva stuff...  :)
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Alan on 19 September 2013, 09:29:25 PM
I wouldn't pick it about anything else... really. Its a dangerous place.
Title: Re: Anybody been to Geneva?
Post by: Leon on 19 September 2013, 09:40:49 PM
Quote from: Alan on 19 September 2013, 09:29:25 PM
I wouldn't pick it about anything else... really. Its a dangerous place.

:D